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The rebuttal to your argument is that it takes less effort to insert a magazine and pull a trigger than it does to craft explosives. For those who resort to bla

The rebuttal to your argument is that it takes less effort to insert a magazine and pull a trigger than it does to craft explosives. For those who resort to blades because they can't access rifles, that's still a better outcome since projected fatalities will certainly be lower. I agree that there is a deeper problem that should be addressed, but there's no reason you can't soften the current burden.

kls 7y ago
Takes less effort than chaining the doors and lighting the place on fire? That is the method du jour among the Mexican crime syndicates right now for mass killing other gangs in bars and safe houses. It's just not Tatic-cool, which is what these US kid mass shooters are going for.
- lstodd 7y ago
  This. Propane is too hi-tech, my fault, sorry. It'll all burn and kill everyone quite nicely just with the air. What the fuck is going on? Why no one ever tries to investigate the root causes?
lstodd 7y ago
If anything, it's simpler and cheaper than learning to operate a gun. But that's beside the point. The point being that no one tries to fix the problem. Okay, ban guns all the way to Tannhäuser Gate, you'll just see some alternative creativity.
- taneq 7y ago
  Are you serious? Using a gun is so simple it's become a catchphrase ("point and shoot") for trivially easy-to-operate things. The thing is, people in their right mind don't often make considered decisions to kill people, but people sure as hell flip out and in that moment want to kill someone. If it takes more than 10 seconds to obtain the means to kill someone, the would-be murderer probably has time to calm down and rethink their plans.
  - lstodd 7y ago
    If you would take some time to study how mass shootings come to be and, well, let's say, unweil, you will see that it takes a) a long period to mentally prepare for, b) a comparable period to prepare materiel for and c) a willingness to execute that is rooted in the above. This misconception that mass shootings are in a big part something impulsive is a symptom of.. well.. ignorance. Can someone at last investigate the actual problem? You can't control thoughts by administrative or legislative action, how hard can this be to grasp?? edit: tpyeos
    - vwcx 7y ago
      There was a shooting in my neighborhood just 12 hours ago. 6 in the hospital, 2 in critical condition, 1 confirmed deceased. Outside of the 'psych-it-up-to-light-it-up' mentality the shooter(s) would've needed to garner in the minutes before, was this not impulsive? https://www.popville.com/2019/09/confirmed-shooting-in-columbia-heights/ https://www.popville.com/2019/09/confirmed-shooting-in-colum...
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      - lstodd 7y ago
        I'm sorry for whoever got shot there. Really. But still I think it wasn't an impulse. Or, more likely the impulse was a manifestation of some deeper problem. The one everyone either couldn't see or chose to neglect. But it was there for a long long time. All in all I wish everyone still alive would get out of this fine. Meanwhile, I have to go fetch a beretta 92fs so if such shit decides to happen to me, I at least will have a chance to do something. And do it in style.

kls 7y ago

Takes less effort than chaining the doors and lighting the place on fire? That is the method du jour among the Mexican crime syndicates right now for mass killing other gangs in bars and safe houses. It's just not Tatic-cool, which is what these US kid mass shooters are going for.

lstodd 7y ago
This. Propane is too hi-tech, my fault, sorry. It'll all burn and kill everyone quite nicely just with the air. What the fuck is going on? Why no one ever tries to investigate the root causes?

lstodd 7y ago

If anything, it's simpler and cheaper than learning to operate a gun. But that's beside the point. The point being that no one tries to fix the problem. Okay, ban guns all the way to Tannhäuser Gate, you'll just see some alternative creativity.

taneq 7y ago
Are you serious? Using a gun is so simple it's become a catchphrase ("point and shoot") for trivially easy-to-operate things. The thing is, people in their right mind don't often make considered decisions to kill people, but people sure as hell flip out and in that moment want to kill someone. If it takes more than 10 seconds to obtain the means to kill someone, the would-be murderer probably has time to calm down and rethink their plans.
- lstodd 7y ago
  If you would take some time to study how mass shootings come to be and, well, let's say, unweil, you will see that it takes a) a long period to mentally prepare for, b) a comparable period to prepare materiel for and c) a willingness to execute that is rooted in the above. This misconception that mass shootings are in a big part something impulsive is a symptom of.. well.. ignorance. Can someone at last investigate the actual problem? You can't control thoughts by administrative or legislative action, how hard can this be to grasp?? edit: tpyeos
  - vwcx 7y ago
    There was a shooting in my neighborhood just 12 hours ago. 6 in the hospital, 2 in critical condition, 1 confirmed deceased. Outside of the 'psych-it-up-to-light-it-up' mentality the shooter(s) would've needed to garner in the minutes before, was this not impulsive? https://www.popville.com/2019/09/confirmed-shooting-in-columbia-heights/ https://www.popville.com/2019/09/confirmed-shooting-in-colum...
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    - lstodd 7y ago
      I'm sorry for whoever got shot there. Really. But still I think it wasn't an impulse. Or, more likely the impulse was a manifestation of some deeper problem. The one everyone either couldn't see or chose to neglect. But it was there for a long long time. All in all I wish everyone still alive would get out of this fine. Meanwhile, I have to go fetch a beretta 92fs so if such shit decides to happen to me, I at least will have a chance to do something. And do it in style.