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I think the downvotes you got speak for itself. I am not even gonna bother answering. Also USA has some of the highest infant mortality and poverty rates in th

by alpb 7y ago

I think the downvotes you got speak for itself. I am not even gonna bother answering. Also USA has some of the highest infant mortality and poverty rates in the western world.

whiddershins 7y ago
Oh, right ... America bashing is popular therefore it is righteous. It’s so fashionable to hate America, that must make it true. Why do you work for an American company then? Hypocrisy. Absolute disgusting hypocrisy every time. The role of America’s military in maintain a relatively peaceful world is unpopular, but has prevented a Third World War thus far. Every decade there is less war and violent death than the one before, because of the use of United States military power. It’s true, and it’s so effective some people naively think it can be somehow done away with. These people don’t live in the real world.
- jacobush 7y ago
  What prevented World War 3 so far was Mutually Assured Desctruction. "M.A.D." is beginning to look a bit long in the tooth, but it's clinging on to life yet.
- mad_tortoise 7y ago
  Man stop drinking the kool-aid. You're lapping up your countries propoganda left, right and center. Apparently according to you, art, science and the humanities wouldn't exist if not for the USA? Get out of here, this is hackernews not 4chan.
  - whiddershins 7y ago
    It’s hard to make art when your country is being torn to shreds by war. How much art was coming out of East Germany under the Soviet Union? What other nation is deterring constant military expansion of China and Russia? How many nations are confronting IS? You are either naive or destructive.
    - pnako 7y ago
      IS was created after the US destroyed Iraq, based on false evidence (just like America invaded Afghanistan based on false reasons). The damage is done, but why persist? What do you expect to happen exactly? In fact Russia consolidated its influence and alliances in the middle east just by exploiting American mistakes there. Just leave. It would be a hugely popular move everywhere: among the left, the right, veterans, other countries, etc. So why not do it?
- saiya-jin 7y ago
  > It’s so fashionable to hate America, that must make it true. Let's be honest here, US is trying hard for last 15 years to be the most hated country anywhere, ever. Millions of innocent civilians killed based on outright lies by US president in Iraq 2nd war (they were so glaringly obvious on UN meeting when GWB presented them that Germany and France outright rejected joining. UK couldn't care less). The consequences are felt across half of Asia and whole Europe till these days. Please tell me, what justice system in US does to a person who kills innocents without any reason? Nothing good. And if you kill millions? Good pension and CIA protection for rest of your life apparently. Plus Afghanistan, yet another battlefield where mighty US army is losing a battle with guys with AKs. Another topic is online privacy, US could have been champion of freedom, and initially it was, but we had Snowden and stuff ain't better since then. That's plain amoral. Currently US can't claim much moral superiority over China for outsiders, like it or not. I ain't even touching the topic of current US president because that would be for a separate thread. To like US and its role in current politics these days requires super strong tint on ones pink glasses. Most of the world is kind of fed up and just wants to be left alone, not invaded for US version of 'freedom', oil, strategic place or whatever. This is real world out there, where 95% of the mankind lives.

by alpb 7y ago

I think the downvotes you got speak for itself. I am not even gonna bother answering. Also USA has some of the highest infant mortality and poverty rates in the western world.

whiddershins 7y ago

Oh, right ... America bashing is popular therefore it is righteous. It’s so fashionable to hate America, that must make it true. Why do you work for an American company then? Hypocrisy. Absolute disgusting hypocrisy every time. The role of America’s military in maintain a relatively peaceful world is unpopular, but has prevented a Third World War thus far. Every decade there is less war and violent death than the one before, because of the use of United States military power. It’s true, and it’s so effective some people naively think it can be somehow done away with. These people don’t live in the real world.

jacobush 7y ago
What prevented World War 3 so far was Mutually Assured Desctruction. "M.A.D." is beginning to look a bit long in the tooth, but it's clinging on to life yet.
mad_tortoise 7y ago
Man stop drinking the kool-aid. You're lapping up your countries propoganda left, right and center. Apparently according to you, art, science and the humanities wouldn't exist if not for the USA? Get out of here, this is hackernews not 4chan.
- whiddershins 7y ago
  It’s hard to make art when your country is being torn to shreds by war. How much art was coming out of East Germany under the Soviet Union? What other nation is deterring constant military expansion of China and Russia? How many nations are confronting IS? You are either naive or destructive.
  - pnako 7y ago
    IS was created after the US destroyed Iraq, based on false evidence (just like America invaded Afghanistan based on false reasons). The damage is done, but why persist? What do you expect to happen exactly? In fact Russia consolidated its influence and alliances in the middle east just by exploiting American mistakes there. Just leave. It would be a hugely popular move everywhere: among the left, the right, veterans, other countries, etc. So why not do it?
saiya-jin 7y ago
> It’s so fashionable to hate America, that must make it true. Let's be honest here, US is trying hard for last 15 years to be the most hated country anywhere, ever. Millions of innocent civilians killed based on outright lies by US president in Iraq 2nd war (they were so glaringly obvious on UN meeting when GWB presented them that Germany and France outright rejected joining. UK couldn't care less). The consequences are felt across half of Asia and whole Europe till these days. Please tell me, what justice system in US does to a person who kills innocents without any reason? Nothing good. And if you kill millions? Good pension and CIA protection for rest of your life apparently. Plus Afghanistan, yet another battlefield where mighty US army is losing a battle with guys with AKs. Another topic is online privacy, US could have been champion of freedom, and initially it was, but we had Snowden and stuff ain't better since then. That's plain amoral. Currently US can't claim much moral superiority over China for outsiders, like it or not. I ain't even touching the topic of current US president because that would be for a separate thread. To like US and its role in current politics these days requires super strong tint on ones pink glasses. Most of the world is kind of fed up and just wants to be left alone, not invaded for US version of 'freedom', oil, strategic place or whatever. This is real world out there, where 95% of the mankind lives.