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Just stop. Absolutely stop equating these things. The world as we know it, the progress in art, science, and humanities. The cures for polio, infant mortality

Just stop. Absolutely stop equating these things. The world as we know it, the progress in art, science, and humanities. The cures for polio, infant mortality and poverty dropping. The website you are currently using to spread poison. Those are all “_What USA does_” Cut it out with this evil language.

TeMPOraL 7y ago
Good you mention cures for polio. The US does both cures for polio and ensuring polio exists and spreads, by virtue of CIA pretending to be agents of vaccination charities, which killed polio eradication efforts in some places. Point being, the US does a lot of things. Some good, some bad. You don't get to trade the good things for the bad things. There could be progress in art, science and humanities without indiscriminate drone bombings of innocent civilians worldwide.
soVeryTired 7y ago
I mean - the US can simultaneously do very good things and very bad things.
icebraining 7y ago
I don't see how that prevents an organization from doing terrorist actions. In fact, it's fairly common, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_social_services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_social_services
brosinante 7y ago
How dare people criticize the U.S. They certainly created art, science and the humanities, not to mention put them in books to civilize all those shithole countries? I was not aware that curing polio is a global absolution of sins.
alpb 7y ago
I think the downvotes you got speak for itself. I am not even gonna bother answering. Also USA has some of the highest infant mortality and poverty rates in the western world.
- whiddershins 7y ago
  Oh, right ... America bashing is popular therefore it is righteous. It’s so fashionable to hate America, that must make it true. Why do you work for an American company then? Hypocrisy. Absolute disgusting hypocrisy every time. The role of America’s military in maintain a relatively peaceful world is unpopular, but has prevented a Third World War thus far. Every decade there is less war and violent death than the one before, because of the use of United States military power. It’s true, and it’s so effective some people naively think it can be somehow done away with. These people don’t live in the real world.
  - jacobush 7y ago
    What prevented World War 3 so far was Mutually Assured Desctruction. "M.A.D." is beginning to look a bit long in the tooth, but it's clinging on to life yet.
  - mad_tortoise 7y ago
    Man stop drinking the kool-aid. You're lapping up your countries propoganda left, right and center. Apparently according to you, art, science and the humanities wouldn't exist if not for the USA? Get out of here, this is hackernews not 4chan.
    - whiddershins 7y ago
      It’s hard to make art when your country is being torn to shreds by war. How much art was coming out of East Germany under the Soviet Union? What other nation is deterring constant military expansion of China and Russia? How many nations are confronting IS? You are either naive or destructive.
      - pnako 7y ago
        IS was created after the US destroyed Iraq, based on false evidence (just like America invaded Afghanistan based on false reasons). The damage is done, but why persist? What do you expect to happen exactly? In fact Russia consolidated its influence and alliances in the middle east just by exploiting American mistakes there. Just leave. It would be a hugely popular move everywhere: among the left, the right, veterans, other countries, etc. So why not do it?
lm28469 7y ago
I mean, the US are not even 250 years old and built by immigrants. The rest of the world didn't wait for them for science, medicine, art and philosophy. From a social standpoint they're still 20-30 years behind most EU countries for example. I think most americans fail to recognise how much propaganda they're constantly fed about how great the US are. From the outside it almost looks like a parody, especially since Trump is in the office. Example: https://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5814270/the-successful-70-year-campaign-to-convince-people-the-usa-and-not https://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5814270/the-successful-70-year...

TeMPOraL 7y ago

Good you mention cures for polio. The US does both cures for polio and ensuring polio exists and spreads, by virtue of CIA pretending to be agents of vaccination charities, which killed polio eradication efforts in some places. Point being, the US does a lot of things. Some good, some bad. You don't get to trade the good things for the bad things. There could be progress in art, science and humanities without indiscriminate drone bombings of innocent civilians worldwide.

soVeryTired 7y ago

I mean - the US can simultaneously do very good things and very bad things.

icebraining 7y ago

I don't see how that prevents an organization from doing terrorist actions. In fact, it's fairly common, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_social_services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_social_services

brosinante 7y ago

How dare people criticize the U.S. They certainly created art, science and the humanities, not to mention put them in books to civilize all those shithole countries? I was not aware that curing polio is a global absolution of sins.

alpb 7y ago

I think the downvotes you got speak for itself. I am not even gonna bother answering. Also USA has some of the highest infant mortality and poverty rates in the western world.

whiddershins 7y ago
Oh, right ... America bashing is popular therefore it is righteous. It’s so fashionable to hate America, that must make it true. Why do you work for an American company then? Hypocrisy. Absolute disgusting hypocrisy every time. The role of America’s military in maintain a relatively peaceful world is unpopular, but has prevented a Third World War thus far. Every decade there is less war and violent death than the one before, because of the use of United States military power. It’s true, and it’s so effective some people naively think it can be somehow done away with. These people don’t live in the real world.
- jacobush 7y ago
  What prevented World War 3 so far was Mutually Assured Desctruction. "M.A.D." is beginning to look a bit long in the tooth, but it's clinging on to life yet.
- mad_tortoise 7y ago
  Man stop drinking the kool-aid. You're lapping up your countries propoganda left, right and center. Apparently according to you, art, science and the humanities wouldn't exist if not for the USA? Get out of here, this is hackernews not 4chan.
  - whiddershins 7y ago
    It’s hard to make art when your country is being torn to shreds by war. How much art was coming out of East Germany under the Soviet Union? What other nation is deterring constant military expansion of China and Russia? How many nations are confronting IS? You are either naive or destructive.
    - pnako 7y ago
      IS was created after the US destroyed Iraq, based on false evidence (just like America invaded Afghanistan based on false reasons). The damage is done, but why persist? What do you expect to happen exactly? In fact Russia consolidated its influence and alliances in the middle east just by exploiting American mistakes there. Just leave. It would be a hugely popular move everywhere: among the left, the right, veterans, other countries, etc. So why not do it?

lm28469 7y ago

I mean, the US are not even 250 years old and built by immigrants. The rest of the world didn't wait for them for science, medicine, art and philosophy. From a social standpoint they're still 20-30 years behind most EU countries for example. I think most americans fail to recognise how much propaganda they're constantly fed about how great the US are. From the outside it almost looks like a parody, especially since Trump is in the office. Example: https://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5814270/the-successful-70-year-campaign-to-convince-people-the-usa-and-not https://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5814270/the-successful-70-year...