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My Apologies for my early morning grumpy post, without re-reading. Here is the more fixed one : > Over a career, the value of tuition free college for the ave
by adev_ 7y ago
My Apologies for my early morning grumpy post, without re-reading.
Here is the more fixed one :
> Over a career, the value of tuition free college for the average American comes nowhere near the extra taxes and lower income they’d have in France
That is so bullshit.
What matter is not, of course, the difference of cost between tuition fees and taxes.
What matter is that everybody, even the ones that can not afford the tuition fees can access University and proper education. Which you can in France and most of European countries, and which you cannot in USA.
I am the living example of that. I come from a family what would never have been able to afford to pay US schools fees. And still I am engineer, thanks to the European system.
- DanBC 7y ago> My Apologies for my early morning grumpy post You're responding to someone who consistently misrepresents the facts about healthcare and healthcare spending in different countries, so a level of grumpiness is somewhat expected.
- rayiner 7y agoIf there is a statistic you want to correct please suggest one. That said, the blatant misrepresentation of the US system as one where everyone is going bankrupt despite having health insurance makes me pretty grumpy too.
- DanBC 7y ago5 Year survival rates are a useless metric that don't say anything about patient harm from over-testing and over-treatment, or anything about all cause mortality. The US does better at 5 year survival rates because it's happy to cause harm to patients for no benefit. You keep saying "The UK"[1] NHS denies treatment to patients, but you can't ever say what treatment is denied, instead pointing to stuff that's readily available. (Which is surprising, because if you actually cared about the truth you'd easily find examples of care that isn't available.) I've never seen a post by you about the English NHS which isn't wrong. Doesn't it worry you that every single post you make about the English NSH is wrong? [1] There isn't one NHS. There are 4 separate systems, controlled by different governments.
- refurb 7y agoRayiner’s posts tend to be some of the more interesting and well thought out posts I see on HN. I don’t always agree with his:her conclusions and I’m sure sometimes he/she is wrong, but the content is generally better than 95% of posts on HN.