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TBH, it doesn't look "easy" at all. Plus, why re-inventing the wheel and create yet another containerization system?

by darkwater 7y ago

melicerte 7y ago
The project is running at least since 2017. Maybe it was less « yet another containerization system » at that time?
- balboah 7y ago
  Yet the design of the website reminds me of the 90's
  - equalunique 7y ago
    They had me after 90s web design
- darkwater 7y ago
  Docker was in full swing in 2017, just like LXC. Even rkt predates it, I'd say
holstvoogd 7y ago
> why re-inventing the wheel and create yet another containerization system? Because that is how we make progress. Try different approaches, learn and evolve the ecosystem. That is how we got usable containers in the first place, it's not a new idea and variants have been around for decades. But only now we've seen it evolve in to something usable. At least they are trying to solve problems. It might not be the best/right solution, hell it might not be an improvement, but if we don't try, we will never learn.
- darkwater 7y ago
  I get that but this is not an "unsolved problem" IMO. Anyway anybody is 100% free to use their time as they prefer, it just makes me wonder if there are/were real technical, unpatchable limits in the already existing solutions or it's just a (totally reasonable) case of NIH.
- pushpop 7y ago
  As a long time BSD and UNIX user, I disagree with the premise that containers have only recently been usable. Even on Linux, solutions like Proxmox made containers incredibly useful in the pre-LXC / pre-Docker days. And that’s discounting FreeBSD jails, Solaris Zones, etc which have existed a lot longer. If anything, Docker just made containers trendy (they gave more talks at more conversations, etc) when before it was seen as a niche toy compared to virtualisation which few had heard of and fewer had bothered to look into. However being trendy doesn’t mean better nor easier to use.
dashwav 7y ago
I could be misunderstanding, but isn't this actually just a new OS for use in any containerization system, rather than a containerization system itself? This seems more in line with Alpine Linux or Google's Distroless images than something like a new docker
- cwyers 7y ago
  > EasyOS is designed from scratch to support containers. Any app can run in a container, in fact an entire desktop can run in a container. Container management is by a simple GUI, no messing around on the commandline. The container mechanism is named Easy Containers, and is designed from scratch (Docker, LXC, etc are not used). Easy Containers are extremely efficient, with almost no overhead -- the base size of each container is only several KB.
  - dashwav 7y ago
    Ah I see, I must have glanced over that paragraph there (which is impressive given that it is the one of the first of them). Thanks for the clarification.
  - indigodaddy 7y ago
    Pretty interesting.. I'm almost tempted to run some test services (web server, etc) in containers on EasyOS in a DO or Vultr VM, etc..

TBH, it doesn't look "easy" at all. Plus, why re-inventing the wheel and create yet another containerization system?

melicerte 7y ago

The project is running at least since 2017. Maybe it was less « yet another containerization system » at that time?

balboah 7y ago
Yet the design of the website reminds me of the 90's
- equalunique 7y ago
  They had me after 90s web design
darkwater 7y ago
Docker was in full swing in 2017, just like LXC. Even rkt predates it, I'd say

holstvoogd 7y ago

> why re-inventing the wheel and create yet another containerization system? Because that is how we make progress. Try different approaches, learn and evolve the ecosystem. That is how we got usable containers in the first place, it's not a new idea and variants have been around for decades. But only now we've seen it evolve in to something usable. At least they are trying to solve problems. It might not be the best/right solution, hell it might not be an improvement, but if we don't try, we will never learn.

darkwater 7y ago
I get that but this is not an "unsolved problem" IMO. Anyway anybody is 100% free to use their time as they prefer, it just makes me wonder if there are/were real technical, unpatchable limits in the already existing solutions or it's just a (totally reasonable) case of NIH.
pushpop 7y ago
As a long time BSD and UNIX user, I disagree with the premise that containers have only recently been usable. Even on Linux, solutions like Proxmox made containers incredibly useful in the pre-LXC / pre-Docker days. And that’s discounting FreeBSD jails, Solaris Zones, etc which have existed a lot longer. If anything, Docker just made containers trendy (they gave more talks at more conversations, etc) when before it was seen as a niche toy compared to virtualisation which few had heard of and fewer had bothered to look into. However being trendy doesn’t mean better nor easier to use.

dashwav 7y ago

I could be misunderstanding, but isn't this actually just a new OS for use in any containerization system, rather than a containerization system itself? This seems more in line with Alpine Linux or Google's Distroless images than something like a new docker

cwyers 7y ago
> EasyOS is designed from scratch to support containers. Any app can run in a container, in fact an entire desktop can run in a container. Container management is by a simple GUI, no messing around on the commandline. The container mechanism is named Easy Containers, and is designed from scratch (Docker, LXC, etc are not used). Easy Containers are extremely efficient, with almost no overhead -- the base size of each container is only several KB.
- dashwav 7y ago
  Ah I see, I must have glanced over that paragraph there (which is impressive given that it is the one of the first of them). Thanks for the clarification.
- indigodaddy 7y ago
  Pretty interesting.. I'm almost tempted to run some test services (web server, etc) in containers on EasyOS in a DO or Vultr VM, etc..