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There are an awful lot of people turning up dead with connections to pending investigations and court cases lately...

by thrower123 7y ago

eganist 7y ago
This kind of conspiratorial speculation isn't really appropriate here.
- thrower123 7y ago
  It's probably coincidental, but it's definitely weird. One of the Spacey accusers also died under unknown circumstances this week.
- Kiro 7y ago
  Whenever it's something regarding Assange you are all very keen on getting conspiratorial.
rhizome 7y ago
sometimes the red part of the beach ball floats above the surface of the water, sometimes the yellow part does.
stordoff 7y ago
The question to ask (IMO) is are they dying at a higher rate than people not involved in court cases (adjusting for age, gender if appropriate), and even then I wouldn't be surprised if the stress of being involved in a court case causes a somewhat higher rate. My suspicion is that you're only noticing it because they're in the public eye, and so reported, but the actual number of people dying of unexpected causes is not that remarkable.
- sooheon 7y ago
  Is this your opinion on the Epstein death as well?
  - thrower123 7y ago
    That one really stinks to high heaven. It beggars belief that there could be that much incompetence and coincidental failures aligning to allow him to be found dead. Sometimes you really need a public trial to air out the laundry, and now that's not going to happen.
    - ryacko 7y ago
      You don’t need a trial to be transparent. You only need to present all the available facts, and hopefully they would support the decisions that were made.
vectorEQ 7y ago
i wouldn't necessarily disagree with that statement you make. though i think without concrete evidence, it's not possible to say anything like this for certain. there are indeed a lot of ways to make someone die, even just applying the 'right kind of psychological pressure to have someone do a lot of drugs' or such things. these kinds of things can't be made concrete, and thus i'd say it's a waste of time and effort to pursue such thoughts, just as it's a waste of time and effort to pursue other views, like speculating about less tin foil hattish circumstances of his death. the medical report is clear up to a point it can be. anything after that is just speculation unless direct concrete evidence can be provided. that means, that this post isn't anymore far fetched than people speculating about less conspiracy based items. it's all a bunch of guesses, and there won't be a final answer unless someone pulls some proof out of their hat. it's better to spend time on things which do have an answer instead of speculating on past events. may the dude rest in peace and let that be the end of it.
Mtinie 7y ago
People under investigation for crimes, or who are witnesses contributing to investigations of other people are often (but not always) under higher-than-normal levels of stress. To manage this stress wouldn’t it follow you’d see increasing rates of self-medication through drugs, alcohol, over-/under-eating, etc. within this population?

There are an awful lot of people turning up dead with connections to pending investigations and court cases lately...

eganist 7y ago

This kind of conspiratorial speculation isn't really appropriate here.

thrower123 7y ago
It's probably coincidental, but it's definitely weird. One of the Spacey accusers also died under unknown circumstances this week.
Kiro 7y ago
Whenever it's something regarding Assange you are all very keen on getting conspiratorial.

rhizome 7y ago

sometimes the red part of the beach ball floats above the surface of the water, sometimes the yellow part does.

stordoff 7y ago

The question to ask (IMO) is are they dying at a higher rate than people not involved in court cases (adjusting for age, gender if appropriate), and even then I wouldn't be surprised if the stress of being involved in a court case causes a somewhat higher rate. My suspicion is that you're only noticing it because they're in the public eye, and so reported, but the actual number of people dying of unexpected causes is not that remarkable.

sooheon 7y ago
Is this your opinion on the Epstein death as well?
- thrower123 7y ago
  That one really stinks to high heaven. It beggars belief that there could be that much incompetence and coincidental failures aligning to allow him to be found dead. Sometimes you really need a public trial to air out the laundry, and now that's not going to happen.
  - ryacko 7y ago
    You don’t need a trial to be transparent. You only need to present all the available facts, and hopefully they would support the decisions that were made.

vectorEQ 7y ago

i wouldn't necessarily disagree with that statement you make. though i think without concrete evidence, it's not possible to say anything like this for certain. there are indeed a lot of ways to make someone die, even just applying the 'right kind of psychological pressure to have someone do a lot of drugs' or such things. these kinds of things can't be made concrete, and thus i'd say it's a waste of time and effort to pursue such thoughts, just as it's a waste of time and effort to pursue other views, like speculating about less tin foil hattish circumstances of his death. the medical report is clear up to a point it can be. anything after that is just speculation unless direct concrete evidence can be provided. that means, that this post isn't anymore far fetched than people speculating about less conspiracy based items. it's all a bunch of guesses, and there won't be a final answer unless someone pulls some proof out of their hat. it's better to spend time on things which do have an answer instead of speculating on past events. may the dude rest in peace and let that be the end of it.

Mtinie 7y ago

People under investigation for crimes, or who are witnesses contributing to investigations of other people are often (but not always) under higher-than-normal levels of stress. To manage this stress wouldn’t it follow you’d see increasing rates of self-medication through drugs, alcohol, over-/under-eating, etc. within this population?