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The Mysterious Death of the Hacker Who Turned in Chelsea Manning
- SmileyRedBall 7y agoIf I recall correctly, most of Lemos hacks consisted of bypassing weakly secured web proxies to access internal Intranets. If I also recall correctly, he had been working for the Feds for some time, before turning in Manning. As Lamo had been caught trying to purchase drugs online using other peoples credit cards. but never mind, print the legend.
- cwkoss 7y ago"Assange's extradition hearing is scheduled for February 2020, and if Lamo had still been alive, the prosecution would likely not have needed to compel Manning's testimony;" <tin foil hat> It seems Lamo being deceased in a necessary pretext for detaining Manning, and so perhaps the IC community knocked him off to keep her imprisoned.
- ajhurliman 7y agoThey could have come up with a million reasons to detain Manning; killing a witness that could've brought Assange to American soil doesn't seem like a likely move.
- cwkoss 7y agoGives them an opportunity to rewrite any testimony previously given by Lamo as well.
- labster 7y agoAnd here I thought Lamo was killed to keep quiet what Jeffrey Epstein did to Hillary’s Benghazi emails. Shows you what I know.
- SEJeff 7y agoThe Derp State strikes again!
- gamblor956 7y agoLamo being alive likely would not have affected the attempt to compel Manning's testimony. Also weird that you go from "likely" straight to "necessary".
- VonGuard 7y agoLamo was a twitchy little fuck with lots of enemies. He was a miserable person, always unhappy, plagued with mental illness, and a past spotted with fucked up relationships. The only people I have ever heard speak kindly of him are the press. I'd known the guy since 1999, and even back then, in the hacker circles, he was making enemies and pissing people off just by being a bad person in general... Seems like a text book suicide candidate, or at least, a self-abuse through substances type. I mean, his parents threw him out in his teens... Last time I posted this here I got downvoted to hell and back. Feel free to do the same.
- quotz 7y agoI watched an interview with him and what you say definitely feels true to me. I mean that guy snitched on the good guys, and Chelsea Manning was a really good friend of his. Who the fuck does that? You can really see that he was plaqued by mental issues....
- 1024core 7y agoThe article mentions, in the passing, that Llamo probably thought it was a trap by the Feds, who he thought were constantly surveilling him.
- shadowgovt 7y agoEspecially at the time, it was really unclear whether Manning was "The good guys." It's honestly still a controversial opinion. Lots of people died from an Arab Spring that was kicked off by Libyans learning the State Dept's opinion of their government. The resulting revolutions wave left a trail of bodies but didn't make much change. The State Department keeps its opinions secret for a reason.
- cwkoss 7y ago> Lots of people died from an Arab Spring that was kicked off by Libyans learning the State Dept's opinion of their government. This is a truly bizarre claim. You really think the popular uprising in Libya was caused because a different country criticized their government? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Civil_War_(2011)#Background https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Civil_War_(2011)#Backgr...
- empath75 7y agoThat’s absurd. Chelsea Manning is in prison of her own volition and can walk out any time she wants to by testifying.
- megous 7y agoThat's quite nonsensical, what you say. If she was there of her own volition, there would be no need for guards, and doors, and locks, and for people who took her away to have taken her away. She would just walked into the prison when she wanted on her own terms. (unlikely)
- shadowgovt 7y agoI believe empath means that unlike other prisoners, there's a clear and specific action she can take to leave prison any time she chooses to.
- jacquesm 7y agoThat doesn't make it voluntary now, does it? It's only voluntary if the doors are unlocked, the guards are gone and you still chose to be there. The whole reason she's there is because they want something from her, it is a legal form of blackmail.
- megous 7y agoYes, I know. But she doesn't want to be both in prison or testify. Someone making something you don't want conditional on something else you don't want either, does not make the situation voluntary.
- quaquaqua1 7y agoI independently investigated Lamo's death. The most likely cause of death is related to kidney failure as per the autopsy posted of the medical examiner's website. Whether the cause of the kidney failure was related to his diet or to some external actor is unable to be determined due to the decomposition of the body when they found it. RIP
- dopamean 7y ago> due to the decomposition of the body when they found it This gives me the impression that he was dead for quite a while before he was found. If that's true how do we have a precise date for when he died?
- duncan-donuts 7y agoBased on all of the true crime stuff I watch/listen to...don’t we have a pretty good idea how long decomposition takes under many different circumstances?
- quaquaqua1 7y agoI'd have to go back and look at the report but I believe he was dead for around a week before being autopsied. I believe that the examiner said it was not possible to confirm or deny any marks on his skin that would have signified external trauma, such as that from a syringe or something if Lamo was "assassinated covertly". In all honesty, Lamo did a lot of drugs in his earlier years and in his later years he was overweight... I suffer from similar kidney problems at just age 27 so it is honestly possible that he simply died of natural kidney failure from our supremely processed American diet.
- gtirloni 7y agoHow fast could kidney failure have reached a critical point? Couldn't he have sought medical assistance?
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- thrower123 7y agoThere are an awful lot of people turning up dead with connections to pending investigations and court cases lately...
- eganist 7y agoThis kind of conspiratorial speculation isn't really appropriate here.
- thrower123 7y agoIt's probably coincidental, but it's definitely weird. One of the Spacey accusers also died under unknown circumstances this week.
- Kiro 7y agoWhenever it's something regarding Assange you are all very keen on getting conspiratorial.
- rhizome 7y agosometimes the red part of the beach ball floats above the surface of the water, sometimes the yellow part does.
- stordoff 7y agoThe question to ask (IMO) is are they dying at a higher rate than people not involved in court cases (adjusting for age, gender if appropriate), and even then I wouldn't be surprised if the stress of being involved in a court case causes a somewhat higher rate. My suspicion is that you're only noticing it because they're in the public eye, and so reported, but the actual number of people dying of unexpected causes is not that remarkable.
- sooheon 7y agoIs this your opinion on the Epstein death as well?
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- exabrial 7y ago> Federal prosecutors ended Lamo's crusade after he hacked The New York Times and the paper pressed charges Just watched an ad on football tonight about how they're pursuing the truth.
- CPAhem 7y agoThere are quite a few mysteries about Wikileaks Arjen Kamphuis' "disappearance" too: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-14/missing-wikileaks-associate-arjen-kamphuis-likely-died-kayaking/11513296 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-14/missing-wikileaks-ass...
- onemoresoop 7y agoAl Jazeera Interview with Lamo: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-U-omBeZMxc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-U-omBeZMxc To me he looks very sedated or on something for sure
- farah7 7y agojesus christ.....how can anyone be surprised he is dead after watching this video? that's the closest thing to a deadman giving an interview you'd ever see.
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- tyingq 7y agoIs that banner warning that Al Jazeera is funded by the Qatari government normal for YouTube? Seems odd. Edit: Apparently it is, hadn't seen this before: https://youtube.googleblog.com/2018/02/greater-transparency-for-users-around.html https://youtube.googleblog.com/2018/02/greater-transparency-...
- dschuetz 7y agoAnd Lamo was his name'o.
- mkl 7y agoIt's pronounced lah-mo, not lame-o.
- xz0r 7y agoLamo used to answer questions on Quora on a frequent basis[0]. By reading his answers I got glimpses of bits of how he thinks . In one of his answers[1] he posts a disclaimer saying he used to work with federal agencies: "The writer is a convicted felon, and has worked closely with federal agencies on national security investigations. Yes, I think it’s weird too." Wish he'd stayed around longer. RIP [0] https://www.quora.com/profile/Adri%C3%A1n-Lamo https://www.quora.com/profile/Adri%C3%A1n-Lamo [1]https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA-continue-surveillance-on-ex-felons/answer/Adrián-Lamo https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA-co...
- sasasassy 7y agoA traitor is good fruit to hang from the boughs of the tree of liberty.
- 25b183 7y agoVery disturbing
- 25b183 7y agoA very disturbing story
- pvaldes 7y agoI'm not a physician and could be wrong, but is not necessarily a voluntary overdose/suicide IMO. Looks like an accumulative problem. Valeriana root is a sedating but also has the effect to slow the ratio degradation of substances on liver. The liver is coping with more substances/drugs etc on a given time and the result is like a tetris effect. Drugs do not have enough time to exit the body. I assume that this could lead to overdose even with a schedule of taking supposedly safe doses. Drugs accumulating in liver could eventually lead to hepatic failure and overdose. Liver and Kidneys are related so if the liver is too busy could just send more unprocessed substances to kidneys to be discarded in urine. High doses of drugs arriving to kidneys could make them fail. At the same time the victim would be sedated and probably not able to react, wake up and go to an hospital