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Someone1234 7y ago
So, no, then? There's nothing in any of these links to support the claim that there is "CCP spyware" on the phones. In fact at least two of your articles are about them putting spyware on iPhones, which undercuts your point further.
amaccuish 7y ago
So does any of that have to do with Huawei? Or is it just an OS that Huawei happens to use was included in an indiscriminate attack?
- vezycash 7y ago
  I remember talks here on HN about Chinese made IOT devices phoning home to servers in China. There have also been discussion on HN about Huawei's telecom equipment being backdoored or simply rigged to siphon information back to china.
  - amaccuish 7y ago
    If this were the case, why do the vast majority of mobile phone networks around the world continue to use and even buy more from Huawei?
    - president 7y ago
      Naiveté and a bit of corruption and/or blackmail. More people need to watch this recent interview with a former CCP insider on the Chinese threat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cwXifDaCjE&t=3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cwXifDaCjE&t=3s.
  - opencl 7y ago
    Lots of people talking about Huawei backdoors, none providing credible evidence of them actually existing. They have their share of security vulnerabilities but no worse than competitors such as Cisco[1]. Random Chinese made IOT devices phoning home to servers in China is definitely a thing, but has nothing to do with Huawei. [1] https://www.techrepublic.com/article/evidence-of-backdoors-in-huawei-equipment-collapse-under-light-scrutiny/ https://www.techrepublic.com/article/evidence-of-backdoors-i...
  - trakout 7y ago
    What kind of data is being sent? Devices that need to legitimately phone home for something tend to do so by requesting servers within or close to the country they were developed in. Imagine people getting riled up at the thought of Apple phoning home to a US-based NTP server..
justicezyx 7y ago
I also feel amused that huawei smart phone are quite popular, and you are only able to find claims from mainstream media outlets instead of users with Huawei phone, which have been proven to lack the ability to verify tech details...
- amaccuish 7y ago
  > which have been proven to lack the ability to verify tech details Sorry are you saying that Huawei users are thick or something? (If you have evidence of Huawei phones having software preinstalled that uploads a user's whatsapp conversations and whatnot to some IP then be my guest! But I don't think you do...)

Someone1234 7y ago

So, no, then? There's nothing in any of these links to support the claim that there is "CCP spyware" on the phones. In fact at least two of your articles are about them putting spyware on iPhones, which undercuts your point further.

amaccuish 7y ago

So does any of that have to do with Huawei? Or is it just an OS that Huawei happens to use was included in an indiscriminate attack?

vezycash 7y ago
I remember talks here on HN about Chinese made IOT devices phoning home to servers in China. There have also been discussion on HN about Huawei's telecom equipment being backdoored or simply rigged to siphon information back to china.
- amaccuish 7y ago
  If this were the case, why do the vast majority of mobile phone networks around the world continue to use and even buy more from Huawei?
  - president 7y ago
    Naiveté and a bit of corruption and/or blackmail. More people need to watch this recent interview with a former CCP insider on the Chinese threat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cwXifDaCjE&t=3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cwXifDaCjE&t=3s.
- opencl 7y ago
  Lots of people talking about Huawei backdoors, none providing credible evidence of them actually existing. They have their share of security vulnerabilities but no worse than competitors such as Cisco[1]. Random Chinese made IOT devices phoning home to servers in China is definitely a thing, but has nothing to do with Huawei. [1] https://www.techrepublic.com/article/evidence-of-backdoors-in-huawei-equipment-collapse-under-light-scrutiny/ https://www.techrepublic.com/article/evidence-of-backdoors-i...
- trakout 7y ago
  What kind of data is being sent? Devices that need to legitimately phone home for something tend to do so by requesting servers within or close to the country they were developed in. Imagine people getting riled up at the thought of Apple phoning home to a US-based NTP server..

justicezyx 7y ago

I also feel amused that huawei smart phone are quite popular, and you are only able to find claims from mainstream media outlets instead of users with Huawei phone, which have been proven to lack the ability to verify tech details...

amaccuish 7y ago
> which have been proven to lack the ability to verify tech details Sorry are you saying that Huawei users are thick or something? (If you have evidence of Huawei phones having software preinstalled that uploads a user's whatsapp conversations and whatnot to some IP then be my guest! But I don't think you do...)