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A lot of prominent bloggers and tech news sites, including John Gruber, The Verge, and many others, got advance devices to review. This is normal, and not uniqu
by teilo 7y ago
A lot of prominent bloggers and tech news sites, including John Gruber, The Verge, and many others, got advance devices to review. This is normal, and not unique to Apple. They also get Pixels and Galaxies in advance.
- delfinom 7y agoUnfortunately, alot early reviewers have perverse incentive to give good reviews to continue receiving early units and getting that as revenue first.
- jankyxenon 7y agoI think Apple has plenty of incentive not to yank reviewable units from people who've gotten them early in the past, when/if they get a bad review. Taints the whole point of doing reviews.
- lern_too_spel 7y ago> Taints the whole point of doing reviews. It certainly does, which is why you can never trust an early review of an Apple product. https://www.cultofmac.com/255618/how-apples-blacklist-manipulates-the-press/ https://www.cultofmac.com/255618/how-apples-blacklist-manipu...
- dpark 7y agoOkay but there’s no concrete examples there. There’s a bunch of broad claims that Apple will blacklist journalists for X, Y, and Z but no names or evidence that it’s actually happening. I can believe that Apple might do this (especially since he also cites openly breaking rules by doing things like live-streaming when it’s been explicitly forbidden) but this article doesn’t convince me it’s happening or educate me on how much of a problem it really is.
- lern_too_spel 7y agoThe article links to a few concrete examples. You'll have to use the Wayback Machine to access them.
- dpark 7y agoNo it doesn’t. It contains a link to an article about supposed “whitelisting” and one about supposedly giving WaPo and exclusive interview in retaliation to the NYT’s critical reporting. These are both the exact opposite of the blacklisting the article asserts exists. Then it links to an article about blacklisting but dismissed it as inaccurate. So there’s nothing linked about actual blacklisting examples by Apple unless I’ve missed something. Elgan doesn’t even say why he is blacklisted.
- lern_too_spel 7y agoThis article is about somebody who got a loaner, which means they are specifically whitelisted as my article's link says, which means that they are uncritical of Apple products. I don't know why you are hung up on blacklisting specifically as I have not mentioned that, only that prelaunch reviews of Apple products are not credible.
- dpark 7y agoBecause this comment chain, including your original reply, was about blacklisting critical reviewers. Also because the article you linked is about blacklisting.
- lern_too_spel 7y agoIt is also about whitelisting, which is the relevant section for this review ("an early review of an Apple product"). I never mentioned the term "blacklisting" until you brought it up. Now that we have that out of the way, do you agree that early reviews of Apple products can only be done by reviewers that Apple considers favorable?
- scarface74 7y agoThe article is extremely weak and then tried to explain way why some publications who say negative things don’t get blacklisted.
- toasterlovin 7y agoThat doesn't make their reviews advertisements.
- CobrastanJorji 7y agoSure, and respected camera review websites like DPReview get the majority of their revenue through people clicking through their site to purchase cameras. Is it a conflict of interest? Oh hell yes, and you should keep it in mind. Does it make the review wrong? Well...probably not, but keep it in mind.
- dominotw 7y agowhy would ppl keep trusting them if they keep writing bogus positive reviews.