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All of you who are commenting on how it's unfair that this bill will mean most green cards over the next few years will go to Indians, how is it fair that India

by tsycho 7y ago

All of you who are commenting on how it's unfair that this bill will mean most green cards over the next few years will go to Indians, how is it fair that Indians currently have an 50+ year queue for a green card? As a personal anecdote, one of my reports (at a FAANG company) has a double Masters (CS and Math) from a top 5 US school, and is a star performer, and without this bill, he has no hope of getting a green card during his working lifetime. He says that he will leave the US if the situation doesn't change in the next few years.

throwaway123x2 7y ago
I wasn't aware that we had a national obligation to be fair to Indians. Especially since Indian tech bodyshops have made a mockery of the entire H1B system.
- sv_h1b 7y ago
  I wasn't aware that US doesn't need a civil society since a part of the population has made mockery of the system have committed crimes and many are in jail.
  - sieabahlpark 7y ago
    No need to go off topic and try to stir up a flame war. Go to Reddit for that.
    - sv_h1b 7y ago
      Ok to the point: 5-6 companies have made mockery of the H1B system. Let's not fix issue for suffering people who came legally as the cream of the system, are highest paid as an immigrant group, pay taxes, understand democracy because of 'those' rotten apples?
      - throwaway123x2 7y ago
        Let's also not make it easier for those companies to abuse the system even more. Why blame the US for Indians' problems when Indian companies are incentivizing us to get rid of rules they're abusing? Reign in your companies instead of telling us to fix our immigration.
      - sieabahlpark 7y ago
        We make laws based on the lowest denominator. You literally cannot trust people to not take advantages of the systems in place when it's a choice between living in the most free country on Earth and their home country. If you argue American isn't free or better then why are they trying to immigrate in the first place? Everyone I've ever talked to who immigrated here said America is better. Don't believe everything you hear on the news buddy, they're selling the ad space just as much as Google and Facebook are.
sieabahlpark 7y ago
If you want an anecdote I've met multiple indians who have masters in the US who can't conceive of solutions themselves. They can't figure out "if" statements or solve logic problems that are trivial that I'd expect a freshman in college to solve. Don't be fooled by that the people around you are the majority who get the green cards or visas. It's actually quite a weak argument all together. Same as this one.
- sv_h1b 7y ago
  And so the system will filter and reject them. Unless you believe everything is Office Space?
  - sieabahlpark 7y ago
    On paper they look great, they passed interviews because they mastered how to answer questions in interviews. It's not as black and white as you seem to believe.

by tsycho 7y ago

throwaway123x2 7y ago

I wasn't aware that we had a national obligation to be fair to Indians. Especially since Indian tech bodyshops have made a mockery of the entire H1B system.

sv_h1b 7y ago
I wasn't aware that US doesn't need a civil society since a part of the population has made mockery of the system have committed crimes and many are in jail.
- sieabahlpark 7y ago
  No need to go off topic and try to stir up a flame war. Go to Reddit for that.
  - sv_h1b 7y ago
    Ok to the point: 5-6 companies have made mockery of the H1B system. Let's not fix issue for suffering people who came legally as the cream of the system, are highest paid as an immigrant group, pay taxes, understand democracy because of 'those' rotten apples?
    - throwaway123x2 7y ago
      Let's also not make it easier for those companies to abuse the system even more. Why blame the US for Indians' problems when Indian companies are incentivizing us to get rid of rules they're abusing? Reign in your companies instead of telling us to fix our immigration.
    - sieabahlpark 7y ago
      We make laws based on the lowest denominator. You literally cannot trust people to not take advantages of the systems in place when it's a choice between living in the most free country on Earth and their home country. If you argue American isn't free or better then why are they trying to immigrate in the first place? Everyone I've ever talked to who immigrated here said America is better. Don't believe everything you hear on the news buddy, they're selling the ad space just as much as Google and Facebook are.

sieabahlpark 7y ago

If you want an anecdote I've met multiple indians who have masters in the US who can't conceive of solutions themselves. They can't figure out "if" statements or solve logic problems that are trivial that I'd expect a freshman in college to solve. Don't be fooled by that the people around you are the majority who get the green cards or visas. It's actually quite a weak argument all together. Same as this one.

sv_h1b 7y ago
And so the system will filter and reject them. Unless you believe everything is Office Space?
- sieabahlpark 7y ago
  On paper they look great, they passed interviews because they mastered how to answer questions in interviews. It's not as black and white as you seem to believe.