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Amazon Signs Climate Pledge to Advance Paris Climate Accords Goals by 10 Years

51 points by CitizenTekk 7y ago

Zhyl 7y ago
>I don't know about you people but I don't want to live in a world where someone else makes the world a better place better than we do - Gavin Belson, Silicon Valley
thinkcontext 7y ago
I'm impressed by the bit about 10K electric vans by 2022. 100K by 2040 seems less impressive given the likely steep slope of adoption. I'm curious if they have any projections about how it will effect their competitiveness with their chief rival Walmart.
pqhwan 7y ago
> which it says will save an estimated 4 million metric tons of carbon per year by 2030. Can anyone speak to the significance of this estimation? What’s the global carbon reduction goal?
- godshatter 7y ago
  I don't know what the reduction goal is, but a quick duckduckgoing found a number of 45 billion metric tons of CO2 added each year[1] as of 2017, which comes out to 12.2 billion metric tons of carbon (C is ~27% of CO2 by weight). So 4 million metric tons of carbon is about 0.03 percent of that total. [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/11/13/global-carbon-dioxide-emissions-reach-record-high/859659001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/11/13/global-...
fooblitzky 7y ago
Where does AWS Oil & Gas fit into the picture? https://aws.amazon.com/oil-and-gas/ https://aws.amazon.com/oil-and-gas/
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tito 7y ago
What are Amazon's other 2040 goals? What I mean is, why do climate goals all get to be decades out (21 years in this case). That's like saying "I'm going to get in shape by 2040". Does AWS have 2040 goals, too? I would like to see Amazon carbon neutral by 2022, 3 years out.
tracker1 7y ago
I do hope the reforestation efforts work out... I also wouldn't mind seeing similar efforts in farming to better re-integrate animal + crop farming again. A lot of actual nutrition has been reduced by mono-farms at scale, which can be more efficient, but that efficiency isn't necessarily better for health of an ecosystem, or the product's consumption. -- edit: I mean matching a lot of experimental farms, fisheries, etc where rotation for grazing animals and/or a more healthy ecosystem are part of the goal and process.

51 points by CitizenTekk 7y ago

Zhyl 7y ago

>I don't know about you people but I don't want to live in a world where someone else makes the world a better place better than we do - Gavin Belson, Silicon Valley

thinkcontext 7y ago

I'm impressed by the bit about 10K electric vans by 2022. 100K by 2040 seems less impressive given the likely steep slope of adoption. I'm curious if they have any projections about how it will effect their competitiveness with their chief rival Walmart.

pqhwan 7y ago

> which it says will save an estimated 4 million metric tons of carbon per year by 2030. Can anyone speak to the significance of this estimation? What’s the global carbon reduction goal?

godshatter 7y ago
I don't know what the reduction goal is, but a quick duckduckgoing found a number of 45 billion metric tons of CO2 added each year[1] as of 2017, which comes out to 12.2 billion metric tons of carbon (C is ~27% of CO2 by weight). So 4 million metric tons of carbon is about 0.03 percent of that total. [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/11/13/global-carbon-dioxide-emissions-reach-record-high/859659001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/11/13/global-...

fooblitzky 7y ago

Where does AWS Oil & Gas fit into the picture? https://aws.amazon.com/oil-and-gas/ https://aws.amazon.com/oil-and-gas/

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tito 7y ago

What are Amazon's other 2040 goals? What I mean is, why do climate goals all get to be decades out (21 years in this case). That's like saying "I'm going to get in shape by 2040". Does AWS have 2040 goals, too? I would like to see Amazon carbon neutral by 2022, 3 years out.

tracker1 7y ago

I do hope the reforestation efforts work out... I also wouldn't mind seeing similar efforts in farming to better re-integrate animal + crop farming again. A lot of actual nutrition has been reduced by mono-farms at scale, which can be more efficient, but that efficiency isn't necessarily better for health of an ecosystem, or the product's consumption. -- edit: I mean matching a lot of experimental farms, fisheries, etc where rotation for grazing animals and/or a more healthy ecosystem are part of the goal and process.