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From a technical point of view I'm quite sure my >10 years old Rebel XSi will yield similar photos after editing the raw-file. If you are impressed by this you'

by fock 7y ago

From a technical point of view I'm quite sure my >10 years old Rebel XSi will yield similar photos after editing the raw-file. If you are impressed by this you're probably not really following the tech, don't have any clue about image processing and are just blindly following what Apples advertising is selling you. Most of the "cool" iphone-pictures in non-optimal lighting are about 50% post-processing and they show (for example the linked pictures are about 1.5MP and while they have nicely matched colors, there's barely any texture left (it's the same for the ads on apple.com). This might be fine for viewing and even a small print but that's nothing a DSLR of yore couldn't do. And believe me, once you print a poster of the nice fisherman and compare image quality form the iPhone and a modern ILC you'll see that there's a lot to catch up for the iPhone. I'd take a typical ILC for ~300 USD over a iPhone everyday from a technical point of view (and so would most photographers if there wasn't the ad-money)

nicoburns 7y ago
You clearly didn't read the article (which covers the technical details of night mode). It's taking multiple exposures at different shutter speeds and combining together. Allowing you to take sharp photos with long exposure times, hand held. Your Rebel XSi (and even the latest Rebel) can't do that (although they have the advantage of a bigger sensor).
- fock 7y ago
  Yeah I read the article alright, but what I see there is something you can do just fine "handheld" with any cheap(ish) ILC. Arguably the method is relatively irrelevant for such comparison.
samvher 7y ago
Thanks for the kind words! I would honestly be curious to see a low light comparison with (older or newer) DSLRs. You might be right that the comparisons on this blog post exaggerate the performance because the XS is just terrible, but the process described in the post where a series of images are merged together in post processing and you can make long-exposure hand-held shots is just not something that's going to work in DSLRs easily. I can imagine that there are situations where this would make certain shots feasible that would have motion blur on a DSLR. Then again, I've imagined wrong before.
dagw 7y ago
Rebel XSi will yield similar photos after editing the raw-file Well obviously. The whole point here and the impressive part of the technology is that you get these results by simply pointing and shooting in full auto mode, no manual post processing and with tiny optics and sensors.
- fock 7y ago
  I don't think it's that impressive to buy a 1100$ phone (which for the most part does nothing more than a 100$ one...) and then justify the price/novelty with the "new" camera, when you can get a much better camera (which will not be obsolescent for a quite long time) for 400$. And actually I'm also not really impressed by image-improvement algorithms anymore, the likes of them have been pretty standard for some time now across vendors (it's not 2010 any more), yet picture quality isn't anywhere above snapshot-level.

by fock 7y ago

nicoburns 7y ago

You clearly didn't read the article (which covers the technical details of night mode). It's taking multiple exposures at different shutter speeds and combining together. Allowing you to take sharp photos with long exposure times, hand held. Your Rebel XSi (and even the latest Rebel) can't do that (although they have the advantage of a bigger sensor).

fock 7y ago
Yeah I read the article alright, but what I see there is something you can do just fine "handheld" with any cheap(ish) ILC. Arguably the method is relatively irrelevant for such comparison.

samvher 7y ago

Thanks for the kind words! I would honestly be curious to see a low light comparison with (older or newer) DSLRs. You might be right that the comparisons on this blog post exaggerate the performance because the XS is just terrible, but the process described in the post where a series of images are merged together in post processing and you can make long-exposure hand-held shots is just not something that's going to work in DSLRs easily. I can imagine that there are situations where this would make certain shots feasible that would have motion blur on a DSLR. Then again, I've imagined wrong before.

dagw 7y ago

Rebel XSi will yield similar photos after editing the raw-file Well obviously. The whole point here and the impressive part of the technology is that you get these results by simply pointing and shooting in full auto mode, no manual post processing and with tiny optics and sensors.

fock 7y ago
I don't think it's that impressive to buy a 1100$ phone (which for the most part does nothing more than a 100$ one...) and then justify the price/novelty with the "new" camera, when you can get a much better camera (which will not be obsolescent for a quite long time) for 400$. And actually I'm also not really impressed by image-improvement algorithms anymore, the likes of them have been pretty standard for some time now across vendors (it's not 2010 any more), yet picture quality isn't anywhere above snapshot-level.