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I’m not entirely convinced it’s fair for non residents to vote, especially those that have no intentions of coming back. Election results for French expats are

I’m not entirely convinced it’s fair for non residents to vote, especially those that have no intentions of coming back. Election results for French expats are typically very different from those back home. LePen was not even close to be qualified for a second turn in the last presidential elections in London. Unless you live in France you would typically not be subject to any of the laws the new government would enact, so part of me thinks “why should I have a say in this?” On the other hand, LePen proposed to strip French expats of their citizenship if they hold other nationalities, so I suppose having a say in the matter was only fair.

jjcm 7y ago
I'm totally fine with not voting at the state level. I don't think it makes any sense that I can vote in a state I don't live in, just because it was the last one I lived in before I left the country. But if they're taxing me, I deserve a vote at the federal level 100%.
carlmr 7y ago
>I’m not entirely convinced it’s fair for non residents to vote, especially those that have no intentions of coming back I think it would be fair to be able to opt out of tax filing obligations in the US and for that give up the right to vote until you return.
cm2187 7y ago
You are assuming all French nationals abroad have no intention of ever moving back to France. This is certainly true for a fraction of them but that’s only going to be a fraction.
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gambiting 7y ago
I disagree incredibly strongly with this idea - I'm Polish and Poland wasn't even on the map of the world for over a 100 years, yet the country survived. Then again during the communist rule we had a proxy government formed in London. Polish expats living abroad are definitely still Poles and as a nation we have a history of those people carrying what made our nation come back from the brink of destruction over and over again - the idea that as a Pole living abroad you couldn't vote is almost repulsive to me.

jjcm 7y ago

I'm totally fine with not voting at the state level. I don't think it makes any sense that I can vote in a state I don't live in, just because it was the last one I lived in before I left the country. But if they're taxing me, I deserve a vote at the federal level 100%.

carlmr 7y ago

>I’m not entirely convinced it’s fair for non residents to vote, especially those that have no intentions of coming back I think it would be fair to be able to opt out of tax filing obligations in the US and for that give up the right to vote until you return.

cm2187 7y ago

You are assuming all French nationals abroad have no intention of ever moving back to France. This is certainly true for a fraction of them but that’s only going to be a fraction.

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gambiting 7y ago

I disagree incredibly strongly with this idea - I'm Polish and Poland wasn't even on the map of the world for over a 100 years, yet the country survived. Then again during the communist rule we had a proxy government formed in London. Polish expats living abroad are definitely still Poles and as a nation we have a history of those people carrying what made our nation come back from the brink of destruction over and over again - the idea that as a Pole living abroad you couldn't vote is almost repulsive to me.