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Seen visually means they saw it with their eyes. Yes there exist "sensor bugs" in human vision but multiple observers with same report suffering from "visual se

Seen visually means they saw it with their eyes. Yes there exist "sensor bugs" in human vision but multiple observers with same report suffering from "visual sensor bugs" is probabilistically absurd. Assuming those reports are credible, which I see no immediate reason to doubt, the most plausible explanation must include technology that is far more advanced than anything we have or can imagine having today or in the next few decades.

TeMPOraL 7y ago
Reports may be credible, but the reporting on that reporting less so. The way I understand it, some people saw some thing, FLIR saw some thing, a ship radar is claimed to have seen some things, but there's little to actually connect these observations as being the same thing. My current best theory is that pilots were seeing a reflection on the surface of water and got confused because FLIR had a possibly unrelated and buggy interaction between an internal reflection in optics and tracking software. (As for the radar thing, I hear it being said that there was a radar that saw someting, but no concrete information is being presented.) Now take it from the other way around. Say it's aliens, or supernatural beings. Then why on Earth would they behave in an exact way that makes the FLIR footage indistinguishable from a camera auto-tracking a reflection on its own optics? Why exactly this pattern?
- armitron 7y ago
  Reflection on the surface of water doesn't pass muster, it's impossible given the pilot reports. There is a multitude of events that are _all_ correlated in time and space. So opposite to what you say, there is a lot to connect these observations. Also, there are far more plausible scenarios than aliens or the supernatural that involve extremely advanced technology.
Isinlor 7y ago
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The evidence in this case is very weak. Someone saw something. "must include technology that is far more advanced than anything we have" Unless we get actual pieces of that "advanced technology", the most probable explanation is that the people got confused. The same way we all get confused about million other things; like miracles witnessed by thousands of people or cops chasing UFO that turned out to be Venus. I will repeat - Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

TeMPOraL 7y ago

Reports may be credible, but the reporting on that reporting less so. The way I understand it, some people saw some thing, FLIR saw some thing, a ship radar is claimed to have seen some things, but there's little to actually connect these observations as being the same thing. My current best theory is that pilots were seeing a reflection on the surface of water and got confused because FLIR had a possibly unrelated and buggy interaction between an internal reflection in optics and tracking software. (As for the radar thing, I hear it being said that there was a radar that saw someting, but no concrete information is being presented.) Now take it from the other way around. Say it's aliens, or supernatural beings. Then why on Earth would they behave in an exact way that makes the FLIR footage indistinguishable from a camera auto-tracking a reflection on its own optics? Why exactly this pattern?

armitron 7y ago
Reflection on the surface of water doesn't pass muster, it's impossible given the pilot reports. There is a multitude of events that are _all_ correlated in time and space. So opposite to what you say, there is a lot to connect these observations. Also, there are far more plausible scenarios than aliens or the supernatural that involve extremely advanced technology.

Isinlor 7y ago

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The evidence in this case is very weak. Someone saw something. "must include technology that is far more advanced than anything we have" Unless we get actual pieces of that "advanced technology", the most probable explanation is that the people got confused. The same way we all get confused about million other things; like miracles witnessed by thousands of people or cops chasing UFO that turned out to be Venus. I will repeat - Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.