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In my experience, Kubernetes is a lot of work to install and maintain. However, I've found managed offerings—especially ones like Azure that actually abstract a

In my experience, Kubernetes is a lot of work to install and maintain. However, I've found managed offerings—especially ones like Azure that actually abstract away the complexity (Amazon exposes all the nitty-gritty, in my experience)—make it easy to use for even smaller shops. Of course, not every workload benefits from the features k8s provides.

bproven 7y ago
I agree on EKS,IMO is it an unfinished bare bones "managed" service. Upgrades of control plane and nodes is a royal PITA - very manual and error prone. In GKE it is literally 2 gcloud commands. I think AWS hamstrings kubernetes still bc it is holding onto ECS. Hopefully they see the light soon, beef it up and make it equal to AKS/GKE. At least make masters/control plane free...ugh
merb 7y ago
did you ever looked at k3s? what is more difficult about k3s than managing ansible? what about kubespray? it's basically k8s managed via ansible? what makes it so difficult?
- bpicolo 7y ago
  When folk want managed k8s, they effectively wanted something akin to a "serverless" compute pool that they point the k8s API at and worry about nothing else - not underlying hosts, networking configuration, storage, etc. The ideal is how close it gets to that. K3s still leaves hardware management to you.
  - merb 7y ago
    ansible, etc, vm's, etc as well?!
- organsnyder 7y ago
  For work projects, I don't want to care about hardware—or "machines" of any sort, for that matter. Give me a ready-to-go platform with networking, storage, node management, etc. already configured. I don't even want to have to run scripts. At home, I'm happy to play around with such things—and just might (I just purchased an old Dell server to take care of some home tasks and provide a sandbox environment). But at work I want to be as far away from the bare metal (physical machines or VMs) as possible.

bproven 7y ago

I agree on EKS,IMO is it an unfinished bare bones "managed" service. Upgrades of control plane and nodes is a royal PITA - very manual and error prone. In GKE it is literally 2 gcloud commands. I think AWS hamstrings kubernetes still bc it is holding onto ECS. Hopefully they see the light soon, beef it up and make it equal to AKS/GKE. At least make masters/control plane free...ugh

merb 7y ago

did you ever looked at k3s? what is more difficult about k3s than managing ansible? what about kubespray? it's basically k8s managed via ansible? what makes it so difficult?

bpicolo 7y ago
When folk want managed k8s, they effectively wanted something akin to a "serverless" compute pool that they point the k8s API at and worry about nothing else - not underlying hosts, networking configuration, storage, etc. The ideal is how close it gets to that. K3s still leaves hardware management to you.
- merb 7y ago
  ansible, etc, vm's, etc as well?!
organsnyder 7y ago
For work projects, I don't want to care about hardware—or "machines" of any sort, for that matter. Give me a ready-to-go platform with networking, storage, node management, etc. already configured. I don't even want to have to run scripts. At home, I'm happy to play around with such things—and just might (I just purchased an old Dell server to take care of some home tasks and provide a sandbox environment). But at work I want to be as far away from the bare metal (physical machines or VMs) as possible.