I had access to a Novix eval system (like a shoebox with a 5 1/4 floppy in the side) at the time and for a lot of things it was _very_ fast - on a par with a VA

I had access to a Novix eval system (like a shoebox with a 5 1/4 floppy in the side) at the time and for a lot of things it was _very_ fast - on a par with a VAX 8600 as I remember. My memories of FORTH are really good too, especially after writing PostScript (FORTH enough) printer drivers that were downloaded printer programs. They turned further downloaded lists of nodes into properly placed topological diagrams and printed them out.