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Why doesn't Google release the source code of the flavor of Linux that it uses after earning tens of billions basically leveraging Linux code? Google open sour

Why doesn't Google release the source code of the flavor of Linux that it uses after earning tens of billions basically leveraging Linux code? Google open sources things that are not central to it's business, just like every other company out there. MPEG-LA cannot be a patent troll let alone a known one, because it's a loose organization of companies that agree on a standard to prevent fragmentation of video and let people deal with one entity instead of a thousand. Those individual companies could be trolls. >fights for open standards like HTML5 Really? Then this move to remove support for H.264 will get Flash even more entrenched because it would be the easiest way for content providers to get WebM video working on IE9 and Safari. Flash has already announced upcoming support for WebM.

irons 16y ago
MPEG-LA cannot be a patent troll let alone a known one, because it's a loose organization of companies that agree on a standard to prevent fragmentation of video and let people deal with one entity instead of a thousand. Also, the licensing terms are fixed at a maximum 10% rise per five-year renewal. Given the lifespan of patents, that's a low ceiling.
- jokermatt999 16y ago
  Also, the licensing terms are fixed at a maximum 10% rise per five-year renewal. Given the lifespan of patents, that's a low ceiling. This is the first I've heard of this. Since one of the main concerns I've heard is that MPEG-LA could raise fees to unacceptable levels, do you mind providing a source for this? I'm still less comfortable with H264 being the standard rather than WebM, but this makes me less worried. (Anti-FUD?)
  - jammur 16y ago
    He's probably referring to the last paragraph of this: http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/avc/Documents/AVC_TermsSummary.pdf http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/avc/Documents/AVC_TermsS...
    - alanfalcon 16y ago
      Considering how the large corporations easily reach the annual cap (currently $6.5 Million per year until at least 2015), the footnote that the 10% maximum increase in royalties does not apply to the cap is a bit disconcerting.
      - ZeroGravitas 16y ago
        Ah, that explains how the cap has managed to go from $5 to $6.5 million (a 30% rise) since the last time I looked at it, which certainly wasn't 15 years ago.
sjwright 16y ago
> Why doesn't Google release the source code of the flavor of Linux that it uses after earning tens of billions basically leveraging Linux code? Because the GPL does not require them to do so. If the GPL required them to do so, nobody would licence their code with it, and only the most batshit-insane people would dare use code licensed under it. Would YOU want to run a Linux server if it obligated you to provide a complete dump of source code to anyone who asked? Seriously people, think before you write. > MPEG-LA cannot be a patent troll let alone a known one, because it's a loose organization of companies MPEG-LA manage a suite of patents and can issue press releases, therefore they can be a patent troll.
- nitrogen 16y ago
  It makes one glad that Linux isn't licensed under the AGPL.
ZeroGravitas 16y ago
The MPEG-LA patent troll is a reference to MobileMedia, a Non-Practicing Entity (aka patent troll) that uses patents it got from Sony and Nokia and sued Apple, Rim and HTC within months of forming as a company. MobileMedia is owned by, and shares a CEO with, MPEG-LA (who also licence non MPEG patent pools e.g. Firewire, the name alone is a bit misleading if you ask me). http://thepriorart.typepad.com/the_prior_art/2010/04/mobilemedia-ideas-v-apple.html http://thepriorart.typepad.com/the_prior_art/2010/04/mobilem...

irons 16y ago

MPEG-LA cannot be a patent troll let alone a known one, because it's a loose organization of companies that agree on a standard to prevent fragmentation of video and let people deal with one entity instead of a thousand. Also, the licensing terms are fixed at a maximum 10% rise per five-year renewal. Given the lifespan of patents, that's a low ceiling.

jokermatt999 16y ago
Also, the licensing terms are fixed at a maximum 10% rise per five-year renewal. Given the lifespan of patents, that's a low ceiling. This is the first I've heard of this. Since one of the main concerns I've heard is that MPEG-LA could raise fees to unacceptable levels, do you mind providing a source for this? I'm still less comfortable with H264 being the standard rather than WebM, but this makes me less worried. (Anti-FUD?)
- jammur 16y ago
  He's probably referring to the last paragraph of this: http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/avc/Documents/AVC_TermsSummary.pdf http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/avc/Documents/AVC_TermsS...
  - alanfalcon 16y ago
    Considering how the large corporations easily reach the annual cap (currently $6.5 Million per year until at least 2015), the footnote that the 10% maximum increase in royalties does not apply to the cap is a bit disconcerting.
    - ZeroGravitas 16y ago
      Ah, that explains how the cap has managed to go from $5 to $6.5 million (a 30% rise) since the last time I looked at it, which certainly wasn't 15 years ago.

sjwright 16y ago

> Why doesn't Google release the source code of the flavor of Linux that it uses after earning tens of billions basically leveraging Linux code? Because the GPL does not require them to do so. If the GPL required them to do so, nobody would licence their code with it, and only the most batshit-insane people would dare use code licensed under it. Would YOU want to run a Linux server if it obligated you to provide a complete dump of source code to anyone who asked? Seriously people, think before you write. > MPEG-LA cannot be a patent troll let alone a known one, because it's a loose organization of companies MPEG-LA manage a suite of patents and can issue press releases, therefore they can be a patent troll.

nitrogen 16y ago
It makes one glad that Linux isn't licensed under the AGPL.

ZeroGravitas 16y ago

The MPEG-LA patent troll is a reference to MobileMedia, a Non-Practicing Entity (aka patent troll) that uses patents it got from Sony and Nokia and sued Apple, Rim and HTC within months of forming as a company. MobileMedia is owned by, and shares a CEO with, MPEG-LA (who also licence non MPEG patent pools e.g. Firewire, the name alone is a bit misleading if you ask me). http://thepriorart.typepad.com/the_prior_art/2010/04/mobilemedia-ideas-v-apple.html http://thepriorart.typepad.com/the_prior_art/2010/04/mobilem...