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Most commentators aren't neutral, this is nothing new. I'm not, and you yourself clearly aren't, based on your extremely one sided posting history on this subje

Most commentators aren't neutral, this is nothing new. I'm not, and you yourself clearly aren't, based on your extremely one sided posting history on this subject. Would you prefer it if other HN readers read and responded to the content of your posts, or dismissed them as trying to spin everything in Androids favor?

blinkingled 16y ago
You should rethink that first sentence. Slippery slope. There are still some neutral and reasonable commentators - Leo Laporte, Ryan Paul- left. If we accept bigotry (and there is plenty of history to asymco, df and arment to attest that all they ever do is turn everything into pro Apple circle jerking. There is no insight, alternative view, logic, reasoning, probability or anything closely resembling. Just one view - Apple is glory, Apple is right. That is ridiculous.) we will soon end up with compartmentalized world where everyone hears and subscribes to what they like - not progress to say the least.
- MrScruff 16y ago
  That's hyperbole. Daring Fireball, Asymco and Arment are advocates for Apple, no doubt. That doesn't prevent them from being able to provide an interesting perspective from one side of the argument. There are plenty of Android advocates out there making the opposing case, and they also get linked on HN. Also, if you're talking about Ryan Paul of Arstechnica, then I certainly wouldn't regard him as neutral. He's an advocate for open source software. I disagree with his stance on many subjects. Doesn't stop me reading his articles though.
  - blinkingled 16y ago
    Key difference here is that Ryan Paul doesn't go on a hyperbole, make numbers up, show poor logic and clear bias in advocating against what he doesn't subscribe to. That is why you don't stop reading his articles. It is because DF/Arment/Asymco do outrageously illogical, facts-be-damned, bigotry-without-fail that I stopped reading their articles. If even once they offered a balanced view point I will reconsider. To make it clear - If for example Paul went and started telling people on a daily basis that don't use Windows as it gives too much hardware choice, kills puppies, gives your data to NSA, Windows will never succeed and what not - that is totally different than what he does currently - covers open source and may be hints at "you should try this" which is way more reasonable. As far as I know he hasn't done the former.
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    - MrScruff 16y ago
      An alternative view would be that DF etc wear their bias on their sleeve, leaving the viewer in no doubt that they are reading a partisan view on the subject. They're the Keith Olbermann of tech punditry. Entertaining and occasionally informative if you take it all with a pinch of salt. Ryan Paul is much less obvious about it, sure, but nevertheless continually presents his area of interest in a positive light. Typically he'll put open source software under very little scrutiny compared to the regular trashing handed out by the Apple & MS writers on Arstechnica.

blinkingled 16y ago

You should rethink that first sentence. Slippery slope. There are still some neutral and reasonable commentators - Leo Laporte, Ryan Paul- left. If we accept bigotry (and there is plenty of history to asymco, df and arment to attest that all they ever do is turn everything into pro Apple circle jerking. There is no insight, alternative view, logic, reasoning, probability or anything closely resembling. Just one view - Apple is glory, Apple is right. That is ridiculous.) we will soon end up with compartmentalized world where everyone hears and subscribes to what they like - not progress to say the least.

MrScruff 16y ago
That's hyperbole. Daring Fireball, Asymco and Arment are advocates for Apple, no doubt. That doesn't prevent them from being able to provide an interesting perspective from one side of the argument. There are plenty of Android advocates out there making the opposing case, and they also get linked on HN. Also, if you're talking about Ryan Paul of Arstechnica, then I certainly wouldn't regard him as neutral. He's an advocate for open source software. I disagree with his stance on many subjects. Doesn't stop me reading his articles though.
- blinkingled 16y ago
  Key difference here is that Ryan Paul doesn't go on a hyperbole, make numbers up, show poor logic and clear bias in advocating against what he doesn't subscribe to. That is why you don't stop reading his articles. It is because DF/Arment/Asymco do outrageously illogical, facts-be-damned, bigotry-without-fail that I stopped reading their articles. If even once they offered a balanced view point I will reconsider. To make it clear - If for example Paul went and started telling people on a daily basis that don't use Windows as it gives too much hardware choice, kills puppies, gives your data to NSA, Windows will never succeed and what not - that is totally different than what he does currently - covers open source and may be hints at "you should try this" which is way more reasonable. As far as I know he hasn't done the former.
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  - MrScruff 16y ago
    An alternative view would be that DF etc wear their bias on their sleeve, leaving the viewer in no doubt that they are reading a partisan view on the subject. They're the Keith Olbermann of tech punditry. Entertaining and occasionally informative if you take it all with a pinch of salt. Ryan Paul is much less obvious about it, sure, but nevertheless continually presents his area of interest in a positive light. Typically he'll put open source software under very little scrutiny compared to the regular trashing handed out by the Apple & MS writers on Arstechnica.