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Wow, I wish more technical books used LaTeX for typesetting like this. Beautiful.

mikece 7y ago
Since you mention typesetting: I am working on a volunteer project that is transcribing old, out of print books from the 1700s through early 1900s (all public domain). For now the plan is simply to make them available online formatted for web, e-readers, and PDF, but thought is being given to formatting for print-on-demand. We've never done the latter so we have no idea what tools would be best for that: is there a good reference for free tools/software for doing page layout for physical books?
- jkepler 7y ago
  LaTeX or TeX would be excellent choices if you want good typographic control, though there's a significant learning curve if you're going to produce beautiful books. Check out https://www.ctan.org https://www.ctan.org to start learning more. They have lots of book publishing resources: https://www.ctan.org/topic/book-pub https://www.ctan.org/topic/book-pub
- photojosh 7y ago
  Any connection to https://standardebooks.org/contribute/ https://standardebooks.org/contribute/ or if not, are you online yet? Wouldn't mind having a look. (And also interested in the print typesetting question.)
- abhgh 7y ago
  If you want to begin with what your outcomes could look like if you use TeX and friends, as suggested by jkepler, see here - [1]. [1] https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1319/showcase-of-beautiful-typography-done-in-tex-friends https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1319/showcase-of-bea...
- bingerman 7y ago
  Context would be a convenient tool for the job. You can create pdf, xml, and epub from the same source. You get the power of Tex but producing modern looking stuff is IMO much easier than with Latex. I personally usually use Latex for short articles and Context for books.
lqet 7y ago
> Beautiful. Is it? I skimmed over it, and I don't find the typesetting / listings / tables / highlighting particularly appealing.
wyldfire 7y ago
I wonder if it used a publicly available style? I like how some stuff looks, I'd like to experiment with this.
ternaryoperator 7y ago
Honestly, I prefer Manning's regular typesetting, which is also beautiful and clear.
stplsd 7y ago
I hate LaTeX typesetting, it looks very archaic and reeks of academism (is that a word?). Unless document require lot of formulas, LaTeX is not a right tool in 2019.
- bingerman 7y ago
  You probably don't hate Latex typesetting. It's just that the kind of default styles that people, especially beginners, tend to use that often look archaic. Latex doesn't make creating your own unique styles too easy though, which is why I personally prefer Context.
- efficax 7y ago
  Insane take. Latex can look like anything you want and also has amazing microtype features these days
  - stplsd 7y ago
    Of course it can, but by default it does not look good, and it is not trivial to change things, hence you see documents which look straight out of 90s.
    - Drdrdrq 7y ago
      This. Defaults matter.

Since you mention typesetting: I am working on a volunteer project that is transcribing old, out of print books from the 1700s through early 1900s (all public domain). For now the plan is simply to make them available online formatted for web, e-readers, and PDF, but thought is being given to formatting for print-on-demand. We've never done the latter so we have no idea what tools would be best for that: is there a good reference for free tools/software for doing page layout for physical books?

jkepler 7y ago
LaTeX or TeX would be excellent choices if you want good typographic control, though there's a significant learning curve if you're going to produce beautiful books. Check out https://www.ctan.org https://www.ctan.org to start learning more. They have lots of book publishing resources: https://www.ctan.org/topic/book-pub https://www.ctan.org/topic/book-pub
photojosh 7y ago
Any connection to https://standardebooks.org/contribute/ https://standardebooks.org/contribute/ or if not, are you online yet? Wouldn't mind having a look. (And also interested in the print typesetting question.)
abhgh 7y ago
If you want to begin with what your outcomes could look like if you use TeX and friends, as suggested by jkepler, see here - [1]. [1] https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1319/showcase-of-beautiful-typography-done-in-tex-friends https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1319/showcase-of-bea...
bingerman 7y ago
Context would be a convenient tool for the job. You can create pdf, xml, and epub from the same source. You get the power of Tex but producing modern looking stuff is IMO much easier than with Latex. I personally usually use Latex for short articles and Context for books.

lqet 7y ago

> Beautiful. Is it? I skimmed over it, and I don't find the typesetting / listings / tables / highlighting particularly appealing.

wyldfire 7y ago

I wonder if it used a publicly available style? I like how some stuff looks, I'd like to experiment with this.

ternaryoperator 7y ago

Honestly, I prefer Manning's regular typesetting, which is also beautiful and clear.

stplsd 7y ago

I hate LaTeX typesetting, it looks very archaic and reeks of academism (is that a word?). Unless document require lot of formulas, LaTeX is not a right tool in 2019.

bingerman 7y ago
You probably don't hate Latex typesetting. It's just that the kind of default styles that people, especially beginners, tend to use that often look archaic. Latex doesn't make creating your own unique styles too easy though, which is why I personally prefer Context.
efficax 7y ago
Insane take. Latex can look like anything you want and also has amazing microtype features these days
- stplsd 7y ago
  Of course it can, but by default it does not look good, and it is not trivial to change things, hence you see documents which look straight out of 90s.
  - Drdrdrq 7y ago
    This. Defaults matter.