What I want to know is how much this extends into real engineering jobs, not just plumbing and web apps. I totally buy that ops and legal jobs in tech companies

What I want to know is how much this extends into real engineering jobs, not just plumbing and web apps. I totally buy that ops and legal jobs in tech companies for example are growing strongly in NYC, but when it comes to real engineering problems I'm still only seeing a few teams at a few companies in NYC. Don't get me wrong. I want this to be true, because I want Silicon Valley to lose its monopoly on the best engineering problems, but it's when the most interesting problems move out of Silicon Valley will I buy the idea that it has been dethroned.