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> Nothing has been proven Do you know the presumption of innocence principle? > I absolutely would lose my job if I was holding a high leadership, PR position

> Nothing has been proven Do you know the presumption of innocence principle? > I absolutely would lose my job if I was holding a high leadership, PR position at my company for making idiotic statements. You would too. I dare you try and lose at this game. I can't lose my job, I live in a country where workers freedoms are protected. Especially when expressing opinions as private citizens and not while doing their job. You probably should learn a few things about what RMS stood for, even for a low standard country like the US. > Why should anyone care about what YOU For no reason. In fact I'm ok with it. You are crying that are tired. > You guys are the type of people to get mad at the world and can't understand why you're hated by everyone I really don't care. I'm loved by the people I love, you, believe me, are less than dog shit to me. And I'm quite sure it's reciprocal, and that's ok. It is very saddening though to watch "you guys" still using this pathetic tactics... This are things people use to say when they are kids, to try get under other people's skin and make them angry. They don't work with functioning adults. Are you sure you aren't the one everybody hates? Looks like it's very important for you to be loved, you;re obsessed with it. Have you talked with someone about it? > RMS by his own account hasn't written actual code in decades And Bosso hasn't played any music in ages, and Schumacher hasn't driven a race car in years. Guess what? they can't anymore! So what? > So he had that going for him as well. What makes you so sure you're not gonna be next? > Oh wait... it's literally PR for FSF's values He was founder and president of the FSF foundation. He stood up for FSF values, because FSF values are HIS values. He made them. they didn't exist before him. He wasn't a PR, he was himself. A PR is someone who works in public relations, he never did that.

muh_gradle 7y ago
> Do you know the presumption of innocence principle? So innocent until proven guilty? Oh wow aren't you the legal expert. You're taking Greg Benford's words at face value. Everything is still "he said, she said" and you don't know any more than I do. Yet you're willing to assume that someone simply cannot be guilty of any wrong doing based on pure speculation while calling it evidence. You're not some neutral balanced individual, so stop pretending. > I can't lose my job, I live in a country where workers freedoms are protected. This isn't a matter of freedom of speech being violated. Many Americans strongly support free speech compared to many European countries. But your speech obviously has consequences. If you're dumb enough to write things that can get you fired on an email to a large mailing list, then don't blame the world when people don't like it. And RMS didn't break the law. He won't be arrested or fined by the government. But yes employers or organizations can want him gone. Why don't you read what freedom of speech actually means. > I really don't care. I already wrote that I don't care about your opinions. So I'm just gonna not read the worthless part here. Congratulations on responding to me not caring about you with you not caring about what I care about. I applaud you. > And Bosso hasn't played any music in ages, and Schumacher hasn't driven a race car in years. I'm saying that RMS's previous contributions don't matter. Read between the lines. > What makes you so sure you're not gonna be next? You clearly don't understand what I am saying. Literally read what I write if you want to respond sensibly. > He was founder and president of the FSF foundation. Yes, and he was asked to resign and the FSF (it's not actually FSF Foundation so learn how acronyms work) will have a chance to live on. It's hilarious how you equate FSF with RMS. Yet the person who is apparently so important to the cause just got himself fired because he couldn't act more sensibly. I anticipate the FSF actually doing something meaningful now. > He wasn't a PR, he was himself. You're just saying semantics at this point. RMS had the most comfortable in the world. He went around the world on FSF dime from donations. He lived in a house that MIT provided for him because his old professor Gerald Sussman asked for it. He hasn't written actual software in decades. All he literally did was travel to give talks. If that's not PR, then what is it. I'm glad that fanboys like you exist all the way in Europe. Go start a GoFundMe for Richard Stallman. I anticipate he's not showering again.

muh_gradle 7y ago

> Do you know the presumption of innocence principle? So innocent until proven guilty? Oh wow aren't you the legal expert. You're taking Greg Benford's words at face value. Everything is still "he said, she said" and you don't know any more than I do. Yet you're willing to assume that someone simply cannot be guilty of any wrong doing based on pure speculation while calling it evidence. You're not some neutral balanced individual, so stop pretending. > I can't lose my job, I live in a country where workers freedoms are protected. This isn't a matter of freedom of speech being violated. Many Americans strongly support free speech compared to many European countries. But your speech obviously has consequences. If you're dumb enough to write things that can get you fired on an email to a large mailing list, then don't blame the world when people don't like it. And RMS didn't break the law. He won't be arrested or fined by the government. But yes employers or organizations can want him gone. Why don't you read what freedom of speech actually means. > I really don't care. I already wrote that I don't care about your opinions. So I'm just gonna not read the worthless part here. Congratulations on responding to me not caring about you with you not caring about what I care about. I applaud you. > And Bosso hasn't played any music in ages, and Schumacher hasn't driven a race car in years. I'm saying that RMS's previous contributions don't matter. Read between the lines. > What makes you so sure you're not gonna be next? You clearly don't understand what I am saying. Literally read what I write if you want to respond sensibly. > He was founder and president of the FSF foundation. Yes, and he was asked to resign and the FSF (it's not actually FSF Foundation so learn how acronyms work) will have a chance to live on. It's hilarious how you equate FSF with RMS. Yet the person who is apparently so important to the cause just got himself fired because he couldn't act more sensibly. I anticipate the FSF actually doing something meaningful now. > He wasn't a PR, he was himself. You're just saying semantics at this point. RMS had the most comfortable in the world. He went around the world on FSF dime from donations. He lived in a house that MIT provided for him because his old professor Gerald Sussman asked for it. He hasn't written actual software in decades. All he literally did was travel to give talks. If that's not PR, then what is it. I'm glad that fanboys like you exist all the way in Europe. Go start a GoFundMe for Richard Stallman. I anticipate he's not showering again.