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In reality, the uninsured avoid going to the doctor until its an emergency and then they go the the ER and rack up tens of thousands of dollars worth of medical

In reality, the uninsured avoid going to the doctor until its an emergency and then they go the the ER and rack up tens of thousands of dollars worth of medical bills for a problem that if treated proactively by an initial doctor visit could have been resolved with a $15 bottle of antibiotics or something similar. The poor person obviously cannot afford that bill so the provider eats it and the result is increasing costs for everyone else. So unless the solution is just to let the poor and their children die, providing everyone with access to health care would probably be a net benefit. Not to mention universal health care would provide for incredible bargaining power meaning drugs such as insulin would not cost an individual hundreds of dollars a month. Everyone with new health insurance is not going to go all at once, I doubt there will be any significant increase in wait time to see a doctor. Finally, people are not units of exchange, they are people and poor or rich they deserve at least a shot at a decent life for them and their family and universal health care goes a long way towards providing that.

magduf 7y ago
>So unless the solution is just to let the poor and their children die This is exactly what Americans like briandear want, and the political tug-of-war between people like him and people like you is much of why the US healthcare system is the mess that it is. I'd say briandear proved my earlier point completely: Americans do not want anything like universal healthcare, and no, we really can't do better (by your definition of "better"). Too many Americans are like briandear for that to happen.
- magduf 7y ago
  Since I can't reply directly to briandear's comment now that it's flagged, I have to ask, why is his comment flagged and now unreadable? He didn't write anything about the rules there that I could see. He expressed an opinion that some people might not like (I certainly find it repulsive), but it's an honest opinion, and I think reflects a large portion of the American electorate, as evidenced by how they vote. Trying to hide this isn't helping.

magduf 7y ago

>So unless the solution is just to let the poor and their children die This is exactly what Americans like briandear want, and the political tug-of-war between people like him and people like you is much of why the US healthcare system is the mess that it is. I'd say briandear proved my earlier point completely: Americans do not want anything like universal healthcare, and no, we really can't do better (by your definition of "better"). Too many Americans are like briandear for that to happen.

magduf 7y ago
Since I can't reply directly to briandear's comment now that it's flagged, I have to ask, why is his comment flagged and now unreadable? He didn't write anything about the rules there that I could see. He expressed an opinion that some people might not like (I certainly find it repulsive), but it's an honest opinion, and I think reflects a large portion of the American electorate, as evidenced by how they vote. Trying to hide this isn't helping.