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You can use dozens of android phones with custom ROM without any google services. It's usable and a lot more private than iPhone(which is only better than googl

You can use dozens of android phones with custom ROM without any google services. It's usable and a lot more private than iPhone(which is only better than google because they failed to build a successful ad network) But for example if you are in any authoritarian state like china, Apple will hand over all your data to authorities, just in case. And Google at least some time before hasn't agreed to do that and got screwed over(now they are trying to get back to mainland market by building censorship search, sucking up to Huawei and other CCP(Chinese Communist Party) branches)

fjp 7y ago
I don't know about other Applie services, but if you don't back iMessage up to iCloud, the messages stay on the device exclusively. That's a pretty good default security level for personal communications.
CaptainZapp 7y ago
Thank you, I'll give it a serious look.
- dngray 7y ago
  Just note you do need to think about device support when using something like LineageOS. You can see officially supported devices on the https://download.lineageos.org https://download.lineageos.org website https://stats.lineageos.org/ https://stats.lineageos.org/ will give you a bit of an idea of the activity for certain models. Checking out the forums for unofficial device activity is also a good idea https://forum.xda-developers.com https://forum.xda-developers.com Using a site like https://www.gsmarena.com/ https://www.gsmarena.com/ can be useful for comparing specs. I would also suggest looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks when determining which phone to buy. For me, I wanted one that supported Band 28 700MHz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT_band_plan_in_the_700_MHz_band https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT_band_plan_in_the_700_MHz_b... So It's a good idea to look at phones. The OnePlus phones tend to have good support, I think in part because of the developer seed program https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-developer-program-custom-rom-kernels/ https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-developer-program-cus... the Xiaomi Redmi Notes are not bad either for a cheaper phone.
  - CaptainZapp 7y ago
    Thank you so much. I mailed your comment to myself in order to dig deepeer into the subject. Android with Google services is just dead in the water for me (I'll be damned before hooking the arguably most private device into the Google spy machine) and so Apple seemed the only viable alternative. But if I can run a Google free alternative without too much headache (and at a reasonable price) I'm all for it.

fjp 7y ago

I don't know about other Applie services, but if you don't back iMessage up to iCloud, the messages stay on the device exclusively. That's a pretty good default security level for personal communications.

CaptainZapp 7y ago

Thank you, I'll give it a serious look.

dngray 7y ago
Just note you do need to think about device support when using something like LineageOS. You can see officially supported devices on the https://download.lineageos.org https://download.lineageos.org website https://stats.lineageos.org/ https://stats.lineageos.org/ will give you a bit of an idea of the activity for certain models. Checking out the forums for unofficial device activity is also a good idea https://forum.xda-developers.com https://forum.xda-developers.com Using a site like https://www.gsmarena.com/ https://www.gsmarena.com/ can be useful for comparing specs. I would also suggest looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks when determining which phone to buy. For me, I wanted one that supported Band 28 700MHz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT_band_plan_in_the_700_MHz_band https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT_band_plan_in_the_700_MHz_b... So It's a good idea to look at phones. The OnePlus phones tend to have good support, I think in part because of the developer seed program https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-developer-program-custom-rom-kernels/ https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-developer-program-cus... the Xiaomi Redmi Notes are not bad either for a cheaper phone.
- CaptainZapp 7y ago
  Thank you so much. I mailed your comment to myself in order to dig deepeer into the subject. Android with Google services is just dead in the water for me (I'll be damned before hooking the arguably most private device into the Google spy machine) and so Apple seemed the only viable alternative. But if I can run a Google free alternative without too much headache (and at a reasonable price) I'm all for it.