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I hope we will NOT keep it. It reminds me how my country was occupied and annexed by Soviet Union.
by vasili111 7y ago
I hope we will NOT keep it. It reminds me how my country was occupied and annexed by Soviet Union.
- mciancia 7y agoMaybe remove history books, they also remind people about this.
- vasili111 7y agoRemoving .su != burning books. I will tell you opposite: we should write in history books the truth about what in realty USSR was and teach children with it so tragedies like USSR never happen again.
- johnisgood 7y agoHe is not saying that "removing .su == burning books", even though both actions lead to permanent destruction of something, I suppose. > I hope we will NOT keep it. It reminds me how my country was occupied and annexed by Soviet Union. Replace "it" with "history books". You hope that we will not "keep" anything that: "reminds you how your country was occupied and annexed by Soviet Union". By this reasoning alone we should not keep a lot of things (including history books) because a lot of things may remind people of something horrible. If you ask me, this is not a good basis of or justification for not keeping that something, which could be ".su", or "history books", or anything else.
- vasili111 7y ago>Replace "it" with "history books". I am against even burning history books from USSR that glorify USSR. BUT we should not use those books to teach history now.
- johnisgood 7y agoIn which case it essentially boils down to: X reminds me of something bad, but I am personally OK with keeping it around. Y reminds me of something bad, too, but I am personally not OK with keeping it. All you did was being selective about it, but the underlying reason is essentially the same, you just apply it selectively based on your own values without considering anyone else's. Although, this does not seem to meet the seemingly only criterion: "reminds me how my country was occupied and annexed by Soviet Union". History books do that, but you do not seem to want to NOT keep them. So perhaps this is not the only criterion, there is something else. What is it? Could it be subjective value? If so, I still think that it is not a good reason to get rid of something because you have not found it valuable AND reminds you of something horrible.
- vasili111 7y agoI am not asking to remove based on that I personally dislike it. This is just my personal feelings and position. But USSR does not exists and there is no reason to keep it. Using it is a kind of propaganda. Its place is in history books and not in the modern internet.
- johnisgood 7y ago> I am not asking to remove based on that I personally dislike it. > I hope we will NOT keep it. It reminds me how my country was occupied and annexed by Soviet Union. It seems contradictory to me. According to the dictionary, "hope" = "to want something to happen or be true". Asking for something is "to want something to happen" as well. Is this incorrect?
- vasili111 7y agoI am not asking to remove based on that I personally dislike it. I am asking to remove it based on: >But USSR does not exists and there is no reason to keep it. Using it is a kind of propaganda. Its place is in history books and not in the modern internet.
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- RobertRoberts 7y agoEvery country has done something terrible to another country. There is not getting around that. And deleting something permanently is very similar to burning something permanently.
- vasili111 7y ago.su is for country USSR. That country does not exists any more. And that country have done many bad things to humankind. There are no reason to use it as like USSR exist now too. USSR is a history and lets keep it in the history.
- endtime 7y agoI agree with you about the horrors of the Soviet Union, but if you want people to know what happened, why remove a bunch of highly accessible primary sources?
- vasili111 7y ago>why remove a bunch of highly accessible primary sources I agree with you that we should not remove "a bunch of highly accessible primary sources" .su is not that kind of source. .su "was assigned as the country code top-level domain" and that country does not exists. It is not like picture, book or building. Why should we use it now?
- endtime 7y agoIn what sense is it not like a picture?
- 9dl 7y agoIn that domain literally zero sources of information And that domain online just because of his owners greed
- scarmig 7y agoIf there were a .nazi TLD, would there be debate about how proper it is?
- reaperducer 7y agoDepends on how it was used. Holocaust museum? OK. Michigan Militia. Nope.
- nobodyshere 7y agoWhich one was that?
- egorfine 7y agoI believe he is speaking of Ukraine. It is trendy today to say things like that in Ukraine.
- ulzeraj 7y agoMaybe because it was trendy to starve Ukrainians when the Soviet Union existed?
- ethelward 7y agoThey also numbered three out of nine PCUS general secretary.
- nobodyshere 7y agoUkrainians were not the only ones to suffer from the famines back then. Multiple parts of the USSR actually did. It doesn't seem like a targeted action on behalf of the govt.
- blfr 7y agoCommunism was such a disaster you can barely tell whether its genocides were intentional!
- vasili111 7y ago>Multiple parts of the USSR actually did. Yes but not like in Ukraine.
- nobodyshere 7y agoYeah, sure.
- johnmulaney 7y agoThere are many things that remind people of bad things. That's not an appropriate reason to remove them.
- vasili111 7y agoDemonstrating symbol of ex "country" in which there was dictatorship, occupation, annexation and genocide is act of glorification/act of paying respect of/to that "country" and its behavior.
- rabidrat 7y agoCan you imagine if there were a .nazi TLD? Would you think it appropriate to discontinue its use, despite its historical significance?
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- yuft 7y agoJoke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ss
- johnisgood 7y agoThat is not the point. There are a lot of things in the world that may remind someone of something bad. Take a look at history books. Should we not keep them either because they remind people of bad things? Of course we could use a zillion other things besides "history books" or ".su", the point is the reason behind not keeping or removing them.
- amalcon 7y agoMy usual response to this is "keep it, but turn it into / put it in a museum". However, that seems impractical here. .su can't go in a museum any more than pi can go in a museum. It could be a museum, but it would by nature be the only one of its kind on this topic -- so, who would get to decide what goes in the museum? The history there is too recent and too global to really find an impartial administrator anywhere.
- gdy 7y agoIs that the country where they have torch marches in the capital? Neonazi torch march in Kiev, Ukraine: https://youtu.be/tHhGEiwCHZE https://youtu.be/tHhGEiwCHZE
- Sommer_Son 7y agoNo,the usual suspects - Russian Nazi March in Moscow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP2o13mxRpo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP2o13mxRpo Or https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-russia-neonazi-20150822-story.html https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-russia-neonazi-20...
- gdy 7y agoThat was in 2011. Since that time Putin has been cracking down on Russian nationalists - some got jailed for real crimes they committed, the number of participants in so called "Russian Marches" went down from 10000 to less than 500, number of hate crimes has been similarly reduced. The Ukraine is moving in the opposite direction.
- 9dl 7y agoNah They all went to jail after 14-15 Suddenly All They were used and now, like used condoms, should be properly recycled. Like it was in 22, 33, 39 And Ukraine Ukraine is moving forward to future
- shitgoose 7y agoRussian nazis are not sitting in the Russian parliament and do not have their own battalions, like their Ukrainian peers (see Azov battalion).
- vasili111 7y agoI am from Georgia, not Ukraine. First of all they are Nationalists, not Nazists. I am not supporting nationalist too but anyway that is very different terms even if they can sound similarly. Second I am pretty sure you can find hundreds of real nazist in any country. But even if we suppose that people on video are nazist making inference about country based on minority is very big mistake.
- lucian1900 7y agoBy that logic, we should certainly get rid of .uk and .us. Even the extremely biased accounts of the USSR that you seem to believe don’t match the continuing brutality of Anglo imperialism. Read some history, perhaps.
- 9dl 7y agoDeleting domain zone changes nothing All we need is proper Tribunal on communism and ussr Like it was with nazism