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Why are for profit prisons any different than state owned prisons? The guard unions and other employees that are contracted out to work in the state owned ones

by lghh 7y ago

Why are for profit prisons any different than state owned prisons? The guard unions and other employees that are contracted out to work in the state owned ones are making just as much money and rely on that slavery in the same way as they do in for profit ones. I see no difference, demolish them all.

criley2 7y ago
Because state owned prisons do not sign contracts with the state requiring % full or penalties. Only private prisons sign contracts with governments requiring 90%+ capacity or penalties. Thus only private prisons truly incentivize local governments to incarcerate more people to avoid extra costs, while if that facility is run by the taxpayer, they enjoy the savings of hiring less guards and incarcerating less people.
rndgermandude 7y ago
Same reason s private corporate run police force or fire department are a bad idea. With all the flaws current system have, governments are at least accountable (on paper) to the citizens. Corporations are not. Private prisons are a clusterfuck where they take their "involuntary customers" for all the money they and their extended family got while still underpaying their staff and overcharging the tax payers. They often signed contracts with governments that included guaranteed minimal occupancy clauses. Now imagine applying the same nice principles to other areas where currently the People (represented by their governments) are in charge. "Thank you for calling 911, a service of Police Corp, a Comcast company. I see you got home intruders. We'll dispatch one of our associate Crime Fight Technicians to your location shortly. Please make sure you're home next Monday between 9m and 5pm to let them in. Would you like to sign up for our premium Home Intruder Plus coverage? Oh wait, I just saw you're located in an area we currently do not serve." And the Industry Association of Fire Fighting Corporations would be lobbying government right now to change building codes to require more flammable materials in houses.

by lghh 7y ago

criley2 7y ago

Because state owned prisons do not sign contracts with the state requiring % full or penalties. Only private prisons sign contracts with governments requiring 90%+ capacity or penalties. Thus only private prisons truly incentivize local governments to incarcerate more people to avoid extra costs, while if that facility is run by the taxpayer, they enjoy the savings of hiring less guards and incarcerating less people.

rndgermandude 7y ago

Same reason s private corporate run police force or fire department are a bad idea. With all the flaws current system have, governments are at least accountable (on paper) to the citizens. Corporations are not. Private prisons are a clusterfuck where they take their "involuntary customers" for all the money they and their extended family got while still underpaying their staff and overcharging the tax payers. They often signed contracts with governments that included guaranteed minimal occupancy clauses. Now imagine applying the same nice principles to other areas where currently the People (represented by their governments) are in charge. "Thank you for calling 911, a service of Police Corp, a Comcast company. I see you got home intruders. We'll dispatch one of our associate Crime Fight Technicians to your location shortly. Please make sure you're home next Monday between 9m and 5pm to let them in. Would you like to sign up for our premium Home Intruder Plus coverage? Oh wait, I just saw you're located in an area we currently do not serve." And the Industry Association of Fire Fighting Corporations would be lobbying government right now to change building codes to require more flammable materials in houses.