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Fascinating. The worst thing about agile I feel is the stand-up meeting. It encourages people just to say stuff and posture as being busy. I feel it encourages

by vbtemp 7y ago

Fascinating. The worst thing about agile I feel is the stand-up meeting. It encourages people just to say stuff and posture as being busy. I feel it encourages the worst part about agile -- that input (work) is more important than results (a working product).

himynameisdom 7y ago
If the team isn't relaying how their work is progressing towards the sprint goal, the daily scrum ends up turning into a status meaning, negating its intended purpose. The daily scrum is a planning meeting. It's meant to help the team understand the big picture scoped to 1 sprint while helping each other achieve a shared commitment.
smileysteve 7y ago
I've been on a variety of teams that do this differently. I once blew up when multiple people said that they were in [the scrum] meetings the day before; this is an example of saying things to account for your time, not to ensure the team is on the same page! I personally try to correct from this problem by asking questions whenever work may relate to me, and being very familiar with the backlog to know how things will coordinate. But also, I rant when people tell me about meetings without any conclusions for the team.
- dane-pgp 7y ago
  > I once blew up when multiple people said that they were in [the scrum] meetings the day before; this is an example of saying things to account for your time Have you considered the possibility that your temperament or personality might be the reason that multiple people on your team feel they have to pre-emptively justify themselves to avoid angry criticism? A meeting where people have to stand in front of their peers and potentially admit their failings can be quite anxiety-inducing if team members can't be trusted to respond in a professional manner.
  - smileysteve 7y ago
    "blew up" and "rant" implied more than intended; The team reacted really positively to the feedback and adjusted accordingly; The team became really healthy at preemptively pairing and parallelizing work, but - to your point adding personalized fun to the standup.

by vbtemp 7y ago

himynameisdom 7y ago

If the team isn't relaying how their work is progressing towards the sprint goal, the daily scrum ends up turning into a status meaning, negating its intended purpose. The daily scrum is a planning meeting. It's meant to help the team understand the big picture scoped to 1 sprint while helping each other achieve a shared commitment.

smileysteve 7y ago

I've been on a variety of teams that do this differently. I once blew up when multiple people said that they were in [the scrum] meetings the day before; this is an example of saying things to account for your time, not to ensure the team is on the same page! I personally try to correct from this problem by asking questions whenever work may relate to me, and being very familiar with the backlog to know how things will coordinate. But also, I rant when people tell me about meetings without any conclusions for the team.

dane-pgp 7y ago
> I once blew up when multiple people said that they were in [the scrum] meetings the day before; this is an example of saying things to account for your time Have you considered the possibility that your temperament or personality might be the reason that multiple people on your team feel they have to pre-emptively justify themselves to avoid angry criticism? A meeting where people have to stand in front of their peers and potentially admit their failings can be quite anxiety-inducing if team members can't be trusted to respond in a professional manner.
- smileysteve 7y ago
  "blew up" and "rant" implied more than intended; The team reacted really positively to the feedback and adjusted accordingly; The team became really healthy at preemptively pairing and parallelizing work, but - to your point adding personalized fun to the standup.