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There are only one or two Marvel or Star Wars movies a year though. Is that really worth subscribing to a streaming service for? (Not to mention that only may

There are only one or two Marvel or Star Wars movies a year though. Is that really worth subscribing to a streaming service for? (Not to mention that only maybe a quarter of these movies are worth seeking out, the rest are something I’d only ever watch for free on an airplane or something. But that’s just personal taste).

dagw 7y ago
Two movies time 4 movie tickets pr movie (for a family) is pretty close to one years worth of streaming service. If you're also the sort of person that considers popcorn an integral part of the movie watching experience then the streaming services is almost certainly cheaper even if you only watch those two movies a year.
scarface74 7y ago
Seeing the box office results of Disney’s movies, your anecdotal opinion doesn’t jibe with the overall market. Besides, there will also be Disney original MCU and Star Wars TV series.
- coldtea 7y ago
  >Seeing the box office results of Disney’s movies, your anecdotal opinion doesn’t jibe with the overall market. Yes, but the overall market also doesn't jibe with taste, as Zappa would say...
  - scarface74 7y ago
    By definition, if people are collectively, willingly giving Disney billions of dollars a year for a Marvel and Star Wars movies, the market is jibing where it matters.
    - TeMPOraL 7y ago
      Still, and circling back to the main point - a movie or two per year plus a single TV show and some occasional filler content is not by itself worth keeping a service subscription at the current prices.
      - mcv 7y ago
        I really hope and assume Disney+ doesn't limit you to just the most recent movies. The whole point of these services is that you get access to everything they ever made, and in the case of Disney and all the properties they own, that's quite a lot.
        TeMPOraL 7y ago
        I would hope so, but Disney is already known for repeatedly pulling out old works from the market and re-releasing them later on, since AFAIK the VCR era, so I wouldn't bet on them refraining from shenanigans on their streaming service.
        scarface74 7y ago
        The CEO of Disney has said that the "Disney Vault" concept is dead. That being said, they still have to wait for licensing deals to expire to have everything on Disney+.
        mcv 7y ago
        I guess I need to check carefully what they're going to offer before I sign up. Also, I may have to wait until my smart TV supports it. We never had these kind of problems when we just had cable. (Or did we?)
        scarface74 7y ago
        https://attractionsmagazine.com/disney-plus-day-one-list/ https://attractionsmagazine.com/disney-plus-day-one-list/
    - coldtea 7y ago
      The market also jibed on pet rocks and destroying the planet with fossil fuels, not sure whether I should care what "matters" to the market...
- CoolGuySteve 7y ago
  Yeah you’re sort of right, 5 of the top 10 on this list are from Disney, including 2 Marvel properties: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2019&p=.htm https://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2019&p=.htm But what I’m talking about is if you scroll down this list, 8 of the top 100 are from Disney unless I’m missing a studio name, I’m counting BV and MGM. So those 5 are pretty much all the 2019 blockbusters you’ll get from the service in a few months.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    Well 6, SpiderMan was released and financed by Sony but Disney did all of the writing and producing. Sony's last two Spiderman movies before they did a deal with Disney were a flop.
    - CoolGuySteve 7y ago
      Sony owns the distribution rights and might own them well into the future, which is what we're talking about here.
mcv 7y ago
There are about 20 Marvel movies, 11 Star Wars movies, and 2 Star Wars TV shows. This is not about watching them when they come out, it's about being able to watch the entire backlog whenever I want. (Assuming they make their entire backlog available, which they should.) Also: tons of Pixar movies. And I still haven't seen The Lion King and Aladdin. Or pretty much any Disney movie other than Brave. If it's not your thing, that's fine, but I've got two kids, and Netflix is a bit short on movies for the whole family that are fun for both kids as well as parents. They're great at stuff for just the kids or just the parents, but for the whole family is what Pixar and Disney are good at.
- partialrecall 7y ago
  If you throw in the rest of Pixar and Disney animated stuff, you're still probably talking about under 100 movies total, right? One cheap usb hard drive and an afternoon on the public library's wifi and you could own non-DRM copies of all of these movies.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    And you still have to get the movies to the mobile devices and TVs....
    - partialrecall 7y ago
      Plug the hard drive into the TV or mobile device. I'm pretty sure mobile devices support USB harddrives these days, but I know for sure "smart TVs" do. If you prefer dumb tvs (as I do) plug an old computer into that. Or if you want to save power, plug a new computer into it. Or get something that supports DLNA (e.g. a playstation or I believe roku's and roku-like devices) and use a DLNA server on your NAS/workstation (I use minidlna, some people I know use Universal Media Server (cross platform GUI, GPLv2.)) Or use a more commercial DLNA-like solution such as plex. There are many options here. That's one of the upsides of pirating non-DRM media. Storage is stupid cheap and anybody on HN should be able to figure out how to get an arbitrary mp4 file onto an arbitrary screen.

dagw 7y ago

Two movies time 4 movie tickets pr movie (for a family) is pretty close to one years worth of streaming service. If you're also the sort of person that considers popcorn an integral part of the movie watching experience then the streaming services is almost certainly cheaper even if you only watch those two movies a year.

scarface74 7y ago

Seeing the box office results of Disney’s movies, your anecdotal opinion doesn’t jibe with the overall market. Besides, there will also be Disney original MCU and Star Wars TV series.

coldtea 7y ago
>Seeing the box office results of Disney’s movies, your anecdotal opinion doesn’t jibe with the overall market. Yes, but the overall market also doesn't jibe with taste, as Zappa would say...
- scarface74 7y ago
  By definition, if people are collectively, willingly giving Disney billions of dollars a year for a Marvel and Star Wars movies, the market is jibing where it matters.
  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    Still, and circling back to the main point - a movie or two per year plus a single TV show and some occasional filler content is not by itself worth keeping a service subscription at the current prices.
    - mcv 7y ago
      I really hope and assume Disney+ doesn't limit you to just the most recent movies. The whole point of these services is that you get access to everything they ever made, and in the case of Disney and all the properties they own, that's quite a lot.
      - TeMPOraL 7y ago
        I would hope so, but Disney is already known for repeatedly pulling out old works from the market and re-releasing them later on, since AFAIK the VCR era, so I wouldn't bet on them refraining from shenanigans on their streaming service.
        scarface74 7y ago
        The CEO of Disney has said that the "Disney Vault" concept is dead. That being said, they still have to wait for licensing deals to expire to have everything on Disney+.
        mcv 7y ago
        I guess I need to check carefully what they're going to offer before I sign up. Also, I may have to wait until my smart TV supports it. We never had these kind of problems when we just had cable. (Or did we?)
        scarface74 7y ago
        https://attractionsmagazine.com/disney-plus-day-one-list/ https://attractionsmagazine.com/disney-plus-day-one-list/
  - coldtea 7y ago
    The market also jibed on pet rocks and destroying the planet with fossil fuels, not sure whether I should care what "matters" to the market...
CoolGuySteve 7y ago
Yeah you’re sort of right, 5 of the top 10 on this list are from Disney, including 2 Marvel properties: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2019&p=.htm https://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2019&p=.htm But what I’m talking about is if you scroll down this list, 8 of the top 100 are from Disney unless I’m missing a studio name, I’m counting BV and MGM. So those 5 are pretty much all the 2019 blockbusters you’ll get from the service in a few months.
- scarface74 7y ago
  Well 6, SpiderMan was released and financed by Sony but Disney did all of the writing and producing. Sony's last two Spiderman movies before they did a deal with Disney were a flop.
  - CoolGuySteve 7y ago
    Sony owns the distribution rights and might own them well into the future, which is what we're talking about here.

mcv 7y ago

There are about 20 Marvel movies, 11 Star Wars movies, and 2 Star Wars TV shows. This is not about watching them when they come out, it's about being able to watch the entire backlog whenever I want. (Assuming they make their entire backlog available, which they should.) Also: tons of Pixar movies. And I still haven't seen The Lion King and Aladdin. Or pretty much any Disney movie other than Brave. If it's not your thing, that's fine, but I've got two kids, and Netflix is a bit short on movies for the whole family that are fun for both kids as well as parents. They're great at stuff for just the kids or just the parents, but for the whole family is what Pixar and Disney are good at.

partialrecall 7y ago
If you throw in the rest of Pixar and Disney animated stuff, you're still probably talking about under 100 movies total, right? One cheap usb hard drive and an afternoon on the public library's wifi and you could own non-DRM copies of all of these movies.
- scarface74 7y ago
  And you still have to get the movies to the mobile devices and TVs....
  - partialrecall 7y ago
    Plug the hard drive into the TV or mobile device. I'm pretty sure mobile devices support USB harddrives these days, but I know for sure "smart TVs" do. If you prefer dumb tvs (as I do) plug an old computer into that. Or if you want to save power, plug a new computer into it. Or get something that supports DLNA (e.g. a playstation or I believe roku's and roku-like devices) and use a DLNA server on your NAS/workstation (I use minidlna, some people I know use Universal Media Server (cross platform GUI, GPLv2.)) Or use a more commercial DLNA-like solution such as plex. There are many options here. That's one of the upsides of pirating non-DRM media. Storage is stupid cheap and anybody on HN should be able to figure out how to get an arbitrary mp4 file onto an arbitrary screen.