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I wonder what happens to .co.uk if the UK dissolves, which seems more possible than it should be after Brexit?

by jon889 7y ago

tyingq 7y ago
Maybe Ukraine would like the TLD :)
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- benj111 7y ago
  If you'd asked people in 2015 which country, UK or Ukraine, they expected to last the longest, I guess most people would have said UK. I wonder what the answer would be now :/
jasoncartwright 7y ago
TLDs based on political entities do seem like a bit of a bad idea https://eurid.eu/en/register-a-eu-domain/brexit-notice/ https://eurid.eu/en/register-a-eu-domain/brexit-notice/
- tyingq 7y ago
  Oh, hadn't considered that... "Should the UK leave the EU with no deal on 1st November 2019, EURid will enforce the following measures as far as .eu domain names that have GB/GI as the registrant’s residence country code are concerned..."
- benj111 7y ago
  Is the nation state itself not a political entity?
  - jasoncartwright 7y ago
    Yes, that's what I was suggesting
    - benj111 7y ago
      Sorry, I thought you were just referring to the .eu tld.
- gtldexplosion 7y ago
  Definitely a danger. The worst is that ppl can't even redirect their old traffic if they have to switch domains. If someone really wants uk in their TLD they can always go with .uk.com - totally unrestricted.
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emmelaich 7y ago
Cool fact - .uk isn't the official tld for great britain. The official one is .gb
- TazeTSchnitzel 7y ago
  .uk is also the UK's though. The country code is explicitly reserved by the UK, and it exists in DNS because they grandfathered in some old system's domains.
- Jaruzel 7y ago
  Cooler fact, GB and UK are different. UK is GB + Northern Ireland. Scotland already have .Scot and I think Wales have thier own also. Not sure I've seen a .England though.
  - mehrdadn 7y ago
    .en would seem apt.
- teddyh 7y ago
  No. The official TLD – i.e. “Top Level Domain”, is .uk. It differs from the normal ISO 3166 two-character country code, GB, even though most other countries have an identical TLD and ISO two-character code. The TLD .gb is merely reserved to deter shenanigans.
  - Symbiote 7y ago
    Both .GB and .UK are the country code top-level domains; .GB because that's the official code, and .UK for legacy reasons. UK is a reserved ISO 3166 code, to prevent complications with DNS TLD assignment. The .GB TLD is in use, but there are only three known domains. This is one: host hermes.dra.hmg.gb hermes.dra.hmg.gb has address 146.80.9.16 hermes.dra.hmg.gb mail is handled by 10 relay.dstl.gov.uk.
    - justincormack 7y ago
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mike-cardwell 7y ago
If Scotland leaves, I imagine we'll switch from "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" to "The United Kingdom of Britain and Northern Ireland", thus keeping the "uk". ".scot" already exists. If Northern Ireland leaves, I guess the UK no longer exists, and we switch to ".gb". Could clone .uk at .gb for a while (ten years?) and give people time to switch, but seems more likely Nominet would prefer to just charge people twice for a .uk and a .gb. If Scotland and Northern Ireland leaves, that leaves us as just "Britain". Maybe we create a new ".brit" (or whever the 2 char country code will be), and give time for .uk to disappear again. Wales wont leave. [edit] I just saw emmelaich's comment that .gb already exists.
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- creativenolo 7y ago
  Great Britain (or Britain) refers to geographic feature (the island) which includes Scotland whether it be part of the UK or possibly not.
- input_sh 7y ago
  Wales has .cymru and .wales.
  - NullPrefix 7y ago
    Neither of those are two letter TLDs.
- kijin 7y ago
  The United Kingdom of England and Wales will remain.
- rjsw 7y ago
  The United Kingdom bit comes from joining together the Scottish and English crowns, it wouldn't be affected by whatever happens to Northern Ireland.
arethuza 7y ago
.scot seems to be the main Scottish TLD (e.g. gov.scot) and Wales has .cymru and .wales. Don't think there are ones for England and NI though - maybe .ruk would do?
skocznymroczny 7y ago
Unlikely Brexit ever happens. There's too much at stake here, globalists would never let it happen. If UK detaches from the EU and it becomes successful, the EU project is over.
- Cthulhu_ 7y ago
  There's big forces at play that do want it to happen though; financial, in that there's a lot of people that want UK businesses and real estate to drop in value so they can buy it up for cheap, and political, political forces who have an interest in destabilizing Europe (and the world).
  - blaser-waffle 7y ago
    A Russian political treatise, Foundations of Geopolitics -- essentially a wish-list/wet-dream of Russian geo-political objectives -- makes it clear that splitting the UK out of the EU is a priority. A divide-and-conquer strategy. Given that several other policy objectives listed in Foundations mirror actual Russian behavior, it's not crazy to think that this is a concerted effort by foreign powers to get the UK to tank it's own economy. The fact that Nigel Farage had an awful lot of contact with Paul Manafort isn't a coincidence... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
- simion314 7y ago
  Isn't a contradiction that "globalists" are the bad guys in your story and at the same time UK wants to keep the benefits of being part of EU market ? What I see happening is that in some countries the EU become the scapegoat for the government corruption and incompetence, usually you could use the other party that was before to blame them but if your party was in power for more then 8 years then is harder to find scapegoats.
- benj111 7y ago
  Why do you think that it's some external force trying to keep the UK in the EU? With Jacob Reece Mogg and James Dyson moving their assets overseas, are they not now 'globalists'?
johannes1234321 7y ago
Depends on the identity goin forward. If England+Wales stick to the name for some reason they will continue using it, and Scots and NI get new ones. (Well, later not if they merge with Republic of Ireland) If they form a new country and rename to "England" (poor Welsh) or "South Britain" they likely will be legal successor of treaties and stuff (like Russia being legal successor of USSR) and can use .UK for the time being. One effect can be seen on .eu: After Brexit UK entities aren't eligible for .eu domains anymore and depending on the outcome on Oct 31st might lose it immediately (while there are statements for a grace period even on Brexit without further agreement ... but no deal leads to no legal requirement)
logfromblammo 7y ago
It wouldn't be any great upheaval. The component kingdoms of the UK would still be separately sovereign realms of the Commonwealth with the same monarch and royal succession. I imagine the process is now well established, as the Commonwealth has more than 50 countries in it, with 16 of them still constitutional monarchies. .uk would probably remain just as grandfathered-in as it is right now, given that the official 2-letter country code is gb .

I wonder what happens to .co.uk if the UK dissolves, which seems more possible than it should be after Brexit?

by jon889 7y ago

I wonder what happens to .co.uk if the UK dissolves, which seems more possible than it should be after Brexit?

tyingq 7y ago

Maybe Ukraine would like the TLD :)

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benj111 7y ago
If you'd asked people in 2015 which country, UK or Ukraine, they expected to last the longest, I guess most people would have said UK. I wonder what the answer would be now :/

jasoncartwright 7y ago

TLDs based on political entities do seem like a bit of a bad idea https://eurid.eu/en/register-a-eu-domain/brexit-notice/ https://eurid.eu/en/register-a-eu-domain/brexit-notice/

tyingq 7y ago
Oh, hadn't considered that... "Should the UK leave the EU with no deal on 1st November 2019, EURid will enforce the following measures as far as .eu domain names that have GB/GI as the registrant’s residence country code are concerned..."
benj111 7y ago
Is the nation state itself not a political entity?
- jasoncartwright 7y ago
  Yes, that's what I was suggesting
  - benj111 7y ago
    Sorry, I thought you were just referring to the .eu tld.
gtldexplosion 7y ago
Definitely a danger. The worst is that ppl can't even redirect their old traffic if they have to switch domains. If someone really wants uk in their TLD they can always go with .uk.com - totally unrestricted.

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emmelaich 7y ago

Cool fact - .uk isn't the official tld for great britain. The official one is .gb

TazeTSchnitzel 7y ago
.uk is also the UK's though. The country code is explicitly reserved by the UK, and it exists in DNS because they grandfathered in some old system's domains.
Jaruzel 7y ago
Cooler fact, GB and UK are different. UK is GB + Northern Ireland. Scotland already have .Scot and I think Wales have thier own also. Not sure I've seen a .England though.
- mehrdadn 7y ago
  .en would seem apt.
teddyh 7y ago
No. The official TLD – i.e. “Top Level Domain”, is .uk. It differs from the normal ISO 3166 two-character country code, GB, even though most other countries have an identical TLD and ISO two-character code. The TLD .gb is merely reserved to deter shenanigans.
- Symbiote 7y ago
  Both .GB and .UK are the country code top-level domains; .GB because that's the official code, and .UK for legacy reasons. UK is a reserved ISO 3166 code, to prevent complications with DNS TLD assignment. The .GB TLD is in use, but there are only three known domains. This is one: host hermes.dra.hmg.gb hermes.dra.hmg.gb has address 146.80.9.16 hermes.dra.hmg.gb mail is handled by 10 relay.dstl.gov.uk.
  - justincormack 7y ago

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mike-cardwell 7y ago

If Scotland leaves, I imagine we'll switch from "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" to "The United Kingdom of Britain and Northern Ireland", thus keeping the "uk". ".scot" already exists. If Northern Ireland leaves, I guess the UK no longer exists, and we switch to ".gb". Could clone .uk at .gb for a while (ten years?) and give people time to switch, but seems more likely Nominet would prefer to just charge people twice for a .uk and a .gb. If Scotland and Northern Ireland leaves, that leaves us as just "Britain". Maybe we create a new ".brit" (or whever the 2 char country code will be), and give time for .uk to disappear again. Wales wont leave. [edit] I just saw emmelaich's comment that .gb already exists.

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creativenolo 7y ago
Great Britain (or Britain) refers to geographic feature (the island) which includes Scotland whether it be part of the UK or possibly not.
input_sh 7y ago
Wales has .cymru and .wales.
- NullPrefix 7y ago
  Neither of those are two letter TLDs.
kijin 7y ago
The United Kingdom of England and Wales will remain.
rjsw 7y ago
The United Kingdom bit comes from joining together the Scottish and English crowns, it wouldn't be affected by whatever happens to Northern Ireland.

arethuza 7y ago

.scot seems to be the main Scottish TLD (e.g. gov.scot) and Wales has .cymru and .wales. Don't think there are ones for England and NI though - maybe .ruk would do?

skocznymroczny 7y ago

Unlikely Brexit ever happens. There's too much at stake here, globalists would never let it happen. If UK detaches from the EU and it becomes successful, the EU project is over.

Cthulhu_ 7y ago
There's big forces at play that do want it to happen though; financial, in that there's a lot of people that want UK businesses and real estate to drop in value so they can buy it up for cheap, and political, political forces who have an interest in destabilizing Europe (and the world).
- blaser-waffle 7y ago
  A Russian political treatise, Foundations of Geopolitics -- essentially a wish-list/wet-dream of Russian geo-political objectives -- makes it clear that splitting the UK out of the EU is a priority. A divide-and-conquer strategy. Given that several other policy objectives listed in Foundations mirror actual Russian behavior, it's not crazy to think that this is a concerted effort by foreign powers to get the UK to tank it's own economy. The fact that Nigel Farage had an awful lot of contact with Paul Manafort isn't a coincidence... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
simion314 7y ago
Isn't a contradiction that "globalists" are the bad guys in your story and at the same time UK wants to keep the benefits of being part of EU market ? What I see happening is that in some countries the EU become the scapegoat for the government corruption and incompetence, usually you could use the other party that was before to blame them but if your party was in power for more then 8 years then is harder to find scapegoats.
benj111 7y ago
Why do you think that it's some external force trying to keep the UK in the EU? With Jacob Reece Mogg and James Dyson moving their assets overseas, are they not now 'globalists'?

johannes1234321 7y ago

Depends on the identity goin forward. If England+Wales stick to the name for some reason they will continue using it, and Scots and NI get new ones. (Well, later not if they merge with Republic of Ireland) If they form a new country and rename to "England" (poor Welsh) or "South Britain" they likely will be legal successor of treaties and stuff (like Russia being legal successor of USSR) and can use .UK for the time being. One effect can be seen on .eu: After Brexit UK entities aren't eligible for .eu domains anymore and depending on the outcome on Oct 31st might lose it immediately (while there are statements for a grace period even on Brexit without further agreement ... but no deal leads to no legal requirement)

logfromblammo 7y ago

It wouldn't be any great upheaval. The component kingdoms of the UK would still be separately sovereign realms of the Commonwealth with the same monarch and royal succession. I imagine the process is now well established, as the Commonwealth has more than 50 countries in it, with 16 of them still constitutional monarchies. .uk would probably remain just as grandfathered-in as it is right now, given that the official 2-letter country code is gb .