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While I agree with you, this article struck more of a chord with me, and I think it's because it specifically says "7 degrees by 2100". That feels hot enough an

While I agree with you, this article struck more of a chord with me, and I think it's because it specifically says "7 degrees by 2100". That feels hot enough and near enough that it's more of an emotional reaction, and as we all know, humans are driven by emotions. So I'm hopeful it will affect others the way it affected me and people will take notice.

julienreszka 7y ago
>as we all know, humans are driven by emotions Emotions sure but reason too. If anyone could reasonably explain to me exactly why I should trust any of those models that are not even close to making accurate predictions I would be grateful.
- coldtea 7y ago
  Because it's not about making "accurate predictions", but about recognizing a still disastrous trend. Recognizing that the house "is on fire" is more important than being able to tell (which noone really can) with great precision at what moment this curtain with caught fire itself, how many degrees will be in the patio in 30 minutes, and when the roof will collapse... If your house is full of feces and garbage, you'd want to remove them. A sane person wouldn't wait until experts warning you about cholera, dysentery, and typhoid from said garbage to first "accurately predict" when exactly the first family member will get such a disease, how high a fever they will get, and whether they'll survive it or not... Not to mention that treating the environment better, reducing CO2, saving forests, and reducing waste, are good in themselves, with or without a climate emergency attached to them.
  - julienreszka 7y ago
    This doesn't look like a reasonable explanation at all.
    - coldtea 7y ago
      Nothing looks like a reasonable explanation when someone doesn't want to accept any alternative to what they are already determined to believe... Even if the overwhelming majority of global climate experts say otherwise and who warn of the danger, he can always consider them misguided or in a big conspiracy to dupe us...
rblion 7y ago
I saw that too and it's definitely concerning. Yet there has been so much news lately about fires, extinction, melting, storms, protests, 'Trump did this now' that most people I know are numb and are starting to check out. It's football season and school has started, many people in America have already forgotten about the Amazon situation.
- bamboozled 7y ago
  I think about this too, it's amazing how quickly we all forget, even though the last catastrophe was only a few weeks go.
  - rblion 7y ago
    Yes, media bombards people with messages all day and all of them are 'breaking news'. We only have so much capacity for new information and for 'breaking news'. This is a serious problem of our times I think, this is part of why things don't change as fast as we'd like them to.

julienreszka 7y ago

>as we all know, humans are driven by emotions Emotions sure but reason too. If anyone could reasonably explain to me exactly why I should trust any of those models that are not even close to making accurate predictions I would be grateful.

coldtea 7y ago
Because it's not about making "accurate predictions", but about recognizing a still disastrous trend. Recognizing that the house "is on fire" is more important than being able to tell (which noone really can) with great precision at what moment this curtain with caught fire itself, how many degrees will be in the patio in 30 minutes, and when the roof will collapse... If your house is full of feces and garbage, you'd want to remove them. A sane person wouldn't wait until experts warning you about cholera, dysentery, and typhoid from said garbage to first "accurately predict" when exactly the first family member will get such a disease, how high a fever they will get, and whether they'll survive it or not... Not to mention that treating the environment better, reducing CO2, saving forests, and reducing waste, are good in themselves, with or without a climate emergency attached to them.
- julienreszka 7y ago
  This doesn't look like a reasonable explanation at all.
  - coldtea 7y ago
    Nothing looks like a reasonable explanation when someone doesn't want to accept any alternative to what they are already determined to believe... Even if the overwhelming majority of global climate experts say otherwise and who warn of the danger, he can always consider them misguided or in a big conspiracy to dupe us...

rblion 7y ago

I saw that too and it's definitely concerning. Yet there has been so much news lately about fires, extinction, melting, storms, protests, 'Trump did this now' that most people I know are numb and are starting to check out. It's football season and school has started, many people in America have already forgotten about the Amazon situation.

bamboozled 7y ago
I think about this too, it's amazing how quickly we all forget, even though the last catastrophe was only a few weeks go.
- rblion 7y ago
  Yes, media bombards people with messages all day and all of them are 'breaking news'. We only have so much capacity for new information and for 'breaking news'. This is a serious problem of our times I think, this is part of why things don't change as fast as we'd like them to.