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I fundamentally disagree that secrecy is the foundation of national security. Journalists have revealed state secrets countless times, and over and over the se
by cwkoss 7y ago
I fundamentally disagree that secrecy is the foundation of national security.
Journalists have revealed state secrets countless times, and over and over the secret was kept to hide unjustifiable actions of government officials violating their oath of office and taking actions which harm national interests.
There is a role for keeping certain information temporarily secret (i.e. don't publish where the active missile silos are, current positions of US troops), but our government should not be in the business of torture, illegal murder, faking suicides, industrial sabotage, domestic propaganda, illegal surveillance, blackmail, sexual extortion... long list of evil things the clandestine services engage in.
We know US intelligence has engaged in these behaviors through our nations history. It seems naive to believe they've never used these methods against our own political leaders to consolidate power and avoid the appropriate legal consequences for their malfeasances. We have no assurance that the system for oversight has not been wholly captured.
All of these thing make our nation more vulnerable (it justifies other countries doing it to us) and we should not tolerate govt spooks feeling they have carte blanche to take immoral and illegal actions to preserve their own self interest. We are the most powerful nation in the world, we can do better, and it truly saddens me that you think these evils are necessary.
- vinceguidry 7y agoThe state of journalism in any particular country is a very good cue to start with when trying to figure out the exact level of civilization present. Journalists not only have to be authorized by states to operate, but they must also be protected by those same states. This is the case in most countries except for exceedingly advanced ones, such as the US and most of Europe, where they can be allowed a great deal of autonomy.
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- cwkoss 7y agoIf quality of journalism is a reasonable proxy for the the civility of a society, doesn't it logically follow that government secrecy and persecution of journalists are forces that destroy civility?
- vinceguidry 7y agoYes, it represents a downslide back towards more primitive forms of government.