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> * Keeps getting better (some commercial software seems to bloat beyond repair) Adobe's video editing suite of latest versions is actually well known to be bu

> * Keeps getting better (some commercial software seems to bloat beyond repair) Adobe's video editing suite of latest versions is actually well known to be buggy in terms of regular crashes and hangings. It took me many months to realize that the problem was not inferior CPU or drivers or other software or virtual machines or little memory, but that their software is straight up buggy. That's a company that charges hundreds of dollars for their suite and also a company that had a perfectly good software before and have also basically owned the market before. Now it is buggy and crashes. What other software even crashes these days? I have to think back several years when I remember office suites crashing or other complicated software. It is really a disgrace on Adobe's part. This is not a single user experience either, there is a general consensus now among video editors that this is the case with Premiere and After Effects.

atoav 7y ago
I am an extensive user of Premiere and After Effects and didn’t experience a single crash that was to blame on Adobe within the last 12 months. The crashes I had were due to 3rd party plugins. I am slowly replacing AE with Blender now, but for certain stuff I still like it.
- Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
  My crashes were definitely due to Adobe. It was latest updated Windows, Nvidia card with latest drivers, latest adobe, plenty of free space and RAM, etc. It crashed even without any plugins. Also as an additional thought, is it really that good that they make such a big software that can be crashed because of a plugin? They know there will be a plugin Zoo out there, they know the plugins sometimes have to use GPU on their own, which brings many troubles with drivers etc, - they still can't manage to just isolate in in their own processes? Plugins are used all the time, it's an industry of itself. Company of the size of Adobe can't foresee that some plugins will be unstable and they need to take care of it? The dreaded chrome can isolate websites in their own processes, Adobe can't do the same with a mere plugin??
  - justinclift 7y ago
    Just to check, did you run a full memory check / burn in test on the computer? eg memtest86 or similar Sometimes this kind of thing turns out to be memory with a problem at some address. :/
    - Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
      Could always be a good think to check, thank you. This thing happen on different hardware for me though, reliably.
  - colejohnson66 7y ago
    LinusTechTips had a weird bug with some Adobe product (I think Premiere) where, IIRC, it crashed if the project was read off the disk too fast
    - Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
      I've had projects where literally just opening the project and scrolling through it (moving the cursor) crashed the program reliably within 20 seconds/10-20 scrollings. This made me think their QA is a joke at this point.
- gnud 7y ago
  The DirectShow filters adobe installs with Premiere makes other programs crash, for me. I've had to disable them. Now, it's possible that this was technically the other programs' fault, but on the other hand you can't blame them for not testing their video playback with all different filters installed. Why does Adobe add these filters globally with a high ranking if they're not drop-in-replacements for the 'normal' ones?
- Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
  By the way, if anyone is looking for an alternative right now, the industry (well at least the amateur community) seems to be moving towards Davinci Resolve (as Premiere replacement) which has a free version (very functional, can export up to 4k videos), has a linux version (!) (with some limitations) and has been much more stable for me so far.
  - atoav 7y ago
    I am actually already using resolve for grading, I wouldn’t really recommend it for full time editors yet, but for ambitioned amateurs it might be the best deal om the market right now

atoav 7y ago

I am an extensive user of Premiere and After Effects and didn’t experience a single crash that was to blame on Adobe within the last 12 months. The crashes I had were due to 3rd party plugins. I am slowly replacing AE with Blender now, but for certain stuff I still like it.

Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
My crashes were definitely due to Adobe. It was latest updated Windows, Nvidia card with latest drivers, latest adobe, plenty of free space and RAM, etc. It crashed even without any plugins. Also as an additional thought, is it really that good that they make such a big software that can be crashed because of a plugin? They know there will be a plugin Zoo out there, they know the plugins sometimes have to use GPU on their own, which brings many troubles with drivers etc, - they still can't manage to just isolate in in their own processes? Plugins are used all the time, it's an industry of itself. Company of the size of Adobe can't foresee that some plugins will be unstable and they need to take care of it? The dreaded chrome can isolate websites in their own processes, Adobe can't do the same with a mere plugin??
- justinclift 7y ago
  Just to check, did you run a full memory check / burn in test on the computer? eg memtest86 or similar Sometimes this kind of thing turns out to be memory with a problem at some address. :/
  - Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
    Could always be a good think to check, thank you. This thing happen on different hardware for me though, reliably.
- colejohnson66 7y ago
  LinusTechTips had a weird bug with some Adobe product (I think Premiere) where, IIRC, it crashed if the project was read off the disk too fast
  - Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
    I've had projects where literally just opening the project and scrolling through it (moving the cursor) crashed the program reliably within 20 seconds/10-20 scrollings. This made me think their QA is a joke at this point.
gnud 7y ago
The DirectShow filters adobe installs with Premiere makes other programs crash, for me. I've had to disable them. Now, it's possible that this was technically the other programs' fault, but on the other hand you can't blame them for not testing their video playback with all different filters installed. Why does Adobe add these filters globally with a high ranking if they're not drop-in-replacements for the 'normal' ones?
Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
By the way, if anyone is looking for an alternative right now, the industry (well at least the amateur community) seems to be moving towards Davinci Resolve (as Premiere replacement) which has a free version (very functional, can export up to 4k videos), has a linux version (!) (with some limitations) and has been much more stable for me so far.
- atoav 7y ago
  I am actually already using resolve for grading, I wouldn’t really recommend it for full time editors yet, but for ambitioned amateurs it might be the best deal om the market right now