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Cutting off the supply without shifting demand doesn’t solve the problem though, it aggravates people to vote in populists who will deregulate.
by parasubvert 7y ago
Cutting off the supply without shifting demand doesn’t solve the problem though, it aggravates people to vote in populists who will deregulate.
- NeedMoreTea 7y agoMuch of the developed world already has deregulating populists - that's half the damn problem. Except populism never lasts, and populist regimes are always incredibly divisive and usually end discredited. It's what comes next that matters.
- new2628 7y agoDefinition of populist? Someone I disagree with.
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- parasubvert 7y agoIt can last over a decade, that’s plenty of time to wreak havoc.
- Gibbon1 7y agoThe way I figure if someone buys a gasoline powered car, they've just committed us to 50-100 tons of CO2 emissions. Seems like that is what you want to stop not playing games with fuel taxes.
- orbifold 7y agoThat seems incredibly low. 1kg of Beef produces ~1ton CO2 equivalent emissions
- donkeyd 7y agoAccording to EPA [0]: > A typical passenger vehicle emits about 4.6 metric tons of carbon dioxide per year. I guess that's why so many people are urging to buy less beef. [1] 0: https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/greenhouse-gas-emissions-typical-passenger-vehicle https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/greenhouse-gas-emissions-t... 1: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/21/giving-up-beef-reduce-carbon-footprint-more-than-cars https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/21/giving-u...
- Gibbon1 7y agoYeah our problem isn't just cars, it's basically everything.
- Luuseens 7y agoCan you provide some sources for this number? Seems high, and first results from a cursory Google search suggest it's between 14 to 60 kg CO2 per 1 kg of beef.
- MertsA 7y agoThis is incorrect. Beef takes a ton of food and releases a good bit of greenhouse gases but nowhere near a ton per kg of meat. Here's a study looking at multiple other studies on the CO2 equivalent greenhouse gases per kg of beef. In particular you'll want to look at page 85. https://web.archive.org/web/20070709233421/http://www.defra.gov.uk/science/project_data/DocumentLibrary/EV02007/EV02007_4601_FRP.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20070709233421/http://www.defra.... That gives a range from 32.3kg per kg of beef to 15kg per kg of beef.
- QuantumAphid 7y agoAlthough beef and other animal ruminants have always been part of the planet's carbon cycle where carbon sources are kept in balance by carbon sinks. What knocks us out of balance is extracting carbon sources (ancient forests) from underground and burning them rapidly within a century-- much faster than any natural carbon sink can absorb.