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Assuming this is posted re: the civil litigation against Snowden, and is meant to initiate a debate. I'll bite: If he signed this, it's pretty much open and sh

Assuming this is posted re: the civil litigation against Snowden, and is meant to initiate a debate. I'll bite: If he signed this, it's pretty much open and shut that he has to forfeit all proceeds from any sales of a book or other medium containing said secrets. However, if the medium does not actually contain any secrets, but is rather about his ordeal and experiences as a whistleblower, well that's not covered by this document. Hence why the state is suing instead.

mirimir 7y ago
That would need to be settled in court. Which I guess is the point of the NDA case. And it will almost certainly tie up any income from a book until resolved. Otherwise, I doubt that Russia will care any more about this than they've cared about extradition demands. But even if his book was published in Russia, global distribution would be difficult. While I'd actually prefer to pay with Bitcoin via Tor, that wouldn't work generally.
- wbl 7y ago
  The book can be distributed; he can't make money from it.
  - mirimir 7y ago
    The option of publishing in Russia would be letting him make money from it. With a suitable cut to Putin, of course, in compensation for his kindness.
metaphor 7y ago
This revision was released circa July 2013. According to Wiki[1]: On May 20, 2013, Snowden flew to Hong Kong after leaving his job at an NSA facility in Hawaii... Perhaps this older revision[2] may be more relevant for the time; wasn't successful in discovering a complete revision history of the form. Leaving it to the lawyer types to diff and discuss. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden [2] https://www.secnav.navy.mil/dusnp/Forms/sf312.pdf https://www.secnav.navy.mil/dusnp/Forms/sf312.pdf EDIT: As it were, item 5 is still there.
- rtkwe 7y ago
  Does Permanent Record contain any classified information though? If not I'm not sure that clause would matter.
compuguy 7y ago
Anyone that has been granted a security clearance in the United States government has signed a SF-312. I can't think of any exceptions off the top of my head...

mirimir 7y ago

That would need to be settled in court. Which I guess is the point of the NDA case. And it will almost certainly tie up any income from a book until resolved. Otherwise, I doubt that Russia will care any more about this than they've cared about extradition demands. But even if his book was published in Russia, global distribution would be difficult. While I'd actually prefer to pay with Bitcoin via Tor, that wouldn't work generally.

wbl 7y ago
The book can be distributed; he can't make money from it.
- mirimir 7y ago
  The option of publishing in Russia would be letting him make money from it. With a suitable cut to Putin, of course, in compensation for his kindness.

metaphor 7y ago

This revision was released circa July 2013. According to Wiki[1]: On May 20, 2013, Snowden flew to Hong Kong after leaving his job at an NSA facility in Hawaii... Perhaps this older revision[2] may be more relevant for the time; wasn't successful in discovering a complete revision history of the form. Leaving it to the lawyer types to diff and discuss. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden [2] https://www.secnav.navy.mil/dusnp/Forms/sf312.pdf https://www.secnav.navy.mil/dusnp/Forms/sf312.pdf EDIT: As it were, item 5 is still there.

rtkwe 7y ago
Does Permanent Record contain any classified information though? If not I'm not sure that clause would matter.

compuguy 7y ago

Anyone that has been granted a security clearance in the United States government has signed a SF-312. I can't think of any exceptions off the top of my head...