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Doesn't this avoid the core point of decarbonising the economy? Rather than getting Chevron to limit emissions, we need them to cease emissions. Which for an oi
by NeedMoreTea 7y ago
Doesn't this avoid the core point of decarbonising the economy? Rather than getting Chevron to limit emissions, we need them to cease emissions. Which for an oil company means find an entirely new line of business - hopefully something like renewables - or cease to exist. Allow a tiny few to continue for the purposes of creating plastics we can't easily substitute by something else. Yes, that expects and requires far-reaching regulation.
Continuing to exist, and emit, just a bit slower is only delaying climate impact, and by a tiny amount.
- nickserv 7y agoAgreed. At this point I'm more inclined to follow the "seize their assets and jail their leaders" doctrine rather than a "let them continue to profit" one.
- PeterStuer 7y agoI'd suggest, if you go that route, just revoking their drilling licence. I find it highly unlikely as current governments, with few exceptions, seem hell bent on extracting even more, even if that means using grotesqly environmental destructive practices such as fracking.
- coliveira 7y agoCorrect, we need to largely regulate these companies out of existence.
- parasubvert 7y agoWhat country would ever vote for such a policy? It is immensely impractical. This level of radicalism is how you get right wing populists who will rather happily jail the environmental radicals. Most of the world continues to rely on fossil fuel for the essentials of life. Change that before throwing execs in jail.
- thrower123 7y agoThis is moronic. Unless we are going to massively step up building of nuclear plants, you cannot eliminate fossil fuel usage, for transport, for heat, and most of all electricity. Renewables don't cut it. That would just be suicidal.
- jpttsn 7y agoBet your jail runs on oil.
- parasubvert 7y agoCutting off the supply without shifting demand doesn’t solve the problem though, it aggravates people to vote in populists who will deregulate.
- NeedMoreTea 7y agoMuch of the developed world already has deregulating populists - that's half the damn problem. Except populism never lasts, and populist regimes are always incredibly divisive and usually end discredited. It's what comes next that matters.
- new2628 7y agoDefinition of populist? Someone I disagree with.
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- parasubvert 7y agoIt can last over a decade, that’s plenty of time to wreak havoc.
- Gibbon1 7y agoThe way I figure if someone buys a gasoline powered car, they've just committed us to 50-100 tons of CO2 emissions. Seems like that is what you want to stop not playing games with fuel taxes.
- orbifold 7y agoThat seems incredibly low. 1kg of Beef produces ~1ton CO2 equivalent emissions
- donkeyd 7y agoAccording to EPA [0]: > A typical passenger vehicle emits about 4.6 metric tons of carbon dioxide per year. I guess that's why so many people are urging to buy less beef. [1] 0: https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/greenhouse-gas-emissions-typical-passenger-vehicle https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/greenhouse-gas-emissions-t... 1: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/21/giving-up-beef-reduce-carbon-footprint-more-than-cars https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/21/giving-u...