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Nah man, the "dont say controversial shit on the job" is a very tired argument. The slippery slope is a real argument that is based in reality. Just look at eve

Nah man, the "dont say controversial shit on the job" is a very tired argument. The slippery slope is a real argument that is based in reality. Just look at events like this one and say to me with a straight face that is hasn't become 1000 times worse in the last couple of years. I say whatever I like and feel is fit for the current discussion. If you don't like that, you may choose not to hang with me. You decide for yourself, not for me. If you think your coworker is a shitty person because what their opinions are then quit the job, don't force others to do it in order for you to have a safe space. That is what I believe and fight for. People don't tend to realize that next time you may be the victim and then I'll defend you, the hate-crowd which you defend this time won't.

lukebitts 7y ago
Here I am saying with a straight face: this hasn't become a 1000 times worse in the last couple of years. Do I have any data to back this up? No. Do you? If you do I'd like to see it, otherwise this is irrelevant to the discussion. You keep turning this discussion into something big, like this giant problem that society is facing or something and I just disagree it is that serious, that's all. Stallman was wrong and no matter how this was handled the outcome was acceptable (to me). If this happens to someone that isn't wrong then I'll be on your side next time. I won't defend someone who is wrong out of principle.
- ecmascript 7y ago
  All I have is a lot of anecdotal evidence. But it's evidence nonetheless. Stuff like this wouldn't simply not happen or noticed 10 years ago but today it is a big deal. Well, it's because I believe it is something big and a giant problem.
  - lukebitts 7y ago
    Stuff like this has been happening since at least the 60s, 20 years ago it was happening to the dixxie chicks for being against the war, 30 years ago it was happening to gay people when their bosses found out, etc. This isn't new, it just gets more attention from the media. And anecdotal evidence is the opposite of evidence, it is meaningless. Your personal experience can be biased in so many ways I wouldn't draw any conclusions from it.

lukebitts 7y ago

Here I am saying with a straight face: this hasn't become a 1000 times worse in the last couple of years. Do I have any data to back this up? No. Do you? If you do I'd like to see it, otherwise this is irrelevant to the discussion. You keep turning this discussion into something big, like this giant problem that society is facing or something and I just disagree it is that serious, that's all. Stallman was wrong and no matter how this was handled the outcome was acceptable (to me). If this happens to someone that isn't wrong then I'll be on your side next time. I won't defend someone who is wrong out of principle.

ecmascript 7y ago
All I have is a lot of anecdotal evidence. But it's evidence nonetheless. Stuff like this wouldn't simply not happen or noticed 10 years ago but today it is a big deal. Well, it's because I believe it is something big and a giant problem.
- lukebitts 7y ago
  Stuff like this has been happening since at least the 60s, 20 years ago it was happening to the dixxie chicks for being against the war, 30 years ago it was happening to gay people when their bosses found out, etc. This isn't new, it just gets more attention from the media. And anecdotal evidence is the opposite of evidence, it is meaningless. Your personal experience can be biased in so many ways I wouldn't draw any conclusions from it.