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I want to know so name 3.

by ohiovr 7y ago

sp332 7y ago
I made another comment in this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21000374 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21000374 and here's an extra one I didn't use https://twitter.com/tamidon/status/1172345517248040961 https://twitter.com/tamidon/status/1172345517248040961 so see if you can find what you want in there.
- ohiovr 7y ago
  30 years ago? every one of these links is heresay from just 4 days ago. That is reviling.
  - sp332 7y ago
    Just for curiosity/entertainment: hearsay is evidence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay Most are first-person accounts so they're not actually hearsay. And anyway what kind of thing were you looking for? Some kind of physical artifact? A confession written by RMS personally?
    - ohiovr 7y ago
      An article, a conversation, anything of the actual public past. Name a forum, scan a newspaper clipping or artifact. Twitter posts from not even a week ago should not have this kind of authority. Or have you considered it ever happening to you?
      - sp332 7y ago
        I was more interested in the credibility of the people than the medium. But how about the EMACS Virgins joke incident from 2009? http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/emailing-richard-stallman.html?showComment=1247268813706#c2710654169843897013 http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/emailing-richard-... A published book from 2002? https://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ch14.html https://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ch14.html (The interview at the bottom.) His own website about an incident in 1988? https://web.archive.org/web/20020204031846/http://www.stallman.org/texas.html https://web.archive.org/web/20020204031846/http://www.stallm... I'm assuming you've seen by now the door with the "hot ladies" sign, and the times he mentioned pedophilia and necrophilia on his website because those got mentioned a lot more.
        ohiovr 7y ago
        Everyone knows RMS is an eccentric, that he hates all things closed source even when it is silly. That eccentric people are also very lonely is easy to understand as I can identify with that. Some have compared him to a Diogenes type character. Apparently the twitter posts are enough to make him drink the hemlock. Just know it can happen to anyone. Even you.
        eesmith 7y ago
        "Everyone knows RMS is an eccentric" .. and like "boys wills be boys" that justifies any behavior? And lets him keep his leadership role?
        dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
        His fight for free software is a part of his character. he was doing it for all these years with high motivation because it wasn't just idealistic, it was personal. A specific brand of proprietary software made his happy hippie coding youth end, took away his friends, etc. - you probably heard the story a million times. Most people would just give up and go on, but he decided to choose Don Quixote's way. Nobody believed he would succeed, it was a lost fight by a lunatic. But it was this weird obsession that kept him motivated over the years. The appearance of Linux was both a success (the world finally got a complete operating system) and a failure (it forgot about GNU and focused on Linux). Then it turned out that proprietary software is not the only danger coming from greedy corporations: DRM, vendor lock-in, etc. RMS predicted many of these and was actively fighting against them. Whereas on a personal level he was the same Don Quixote as in the after-Symbolics period. Many people hated him for all possible reasons, and are celebrating now. What a sad time.
        eesmith 7y ago
        Which has nothing to do with this specific thread topic, that being evidence of "decades of Stallman's abuse of his positions at FSF and MIT".
        7y ago
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I want to know so name 3.

by ohiovr 7y ago

I want to know so name 3.

I made another comment in this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21000374 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21000374 and here's an extra one I didn't use https://twitter.com/tamidon/status/1172345517248040961 https://twitter.com/tamidon/status/1172345517248040961 so see if you can find what you want in there.

ohiovr 7y ago
30 years ago? every one of these links is heresay from just 4 days ago. That is reviling.
- sp332 7y ago
  Just for curiosity/entertainment: hearsay is evidence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay Most are first-person accounts so they're not actually hearsay. And anyway what kind of thing were you looking for? Some kind of physical artifact? A confession written by RMS personally?
  - ohiovr 7y ago
    An article, a conversation, anything of the actual public past. Name a forum, scan a newspaper clipping or artifact. Twitter posts from not even a week ago should not have this kind of authority. Or have you considered it ever happening to you?
    - sp332 7y ago
      I was more interested in the credibility of the people than the medium. But how about the EMACS Virgins joke incident from 2009? http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/emailing-richard-stallman.html?showComment=1247268813706#c2710654169843897013 http://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/emailing-richard-... A published book from 2002? https://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ch14.html https://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ch14.html (The interview at the bottom.) His own website about an incident in 1988? https://web.archive.org/web/20020204031846/http://www.stallman.org/texas.html https://web.archive.org/web/20020204031846/http://www.stallm... I'm assuming you've seen by now the door with the "hot ladies" sign, and the times he mentioned pedophilia and necrophilia on his website because those got mentioned a lot more.
      - ohiovr 7y ago
        Everyone knows RMS is an eccentric, that he hates all things closed source even when it is silly. That eccentric people are also very lonely is easy to understand as I can identify with that. Some have compared him to a Diogenes type character. Apparently the twitter posts are enough to make him drink the hemlock. Just know it can happen to anyone. Even you.
        eesmith 7y ago
        "Everyone knows RMS is an eccentric" .. and like "boys wills be boys" that justifies any behavior? And lets him keep his leadership role?
        dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
        His fight for free software is a part of his character. he was doing it for all these years with high motivation because it wasn't just idealistic, it was personal. A specific brand of proprietary software made his happy hippie coding youth end, took away his friends, etc. - you probably heard the story a million times. Most people would just give up and go on, but he decided to choose Don Quixote's way. Nobody believed he would succeed, it was a lost fight by a lunatic. But it was this weird obsession that kept him motivated over the years. The appearance of Linux was both a success (the world finally got a complete operating system) and a failure (it forgot about GNU and focused on Linux). Then it turned out that proprietary software is not the only danger coming from greedy corporations: DRM, vendor lock-in, etc. RMS predicted many of these and was actively fighting against them. Whereas on a personal level he was the same Don Quixote as in the after-Symbolics period. Many people hated him for all possible reasons, and are celebrating now. What a sad time.
        eesmith 7y ago
        Which has nothing to do with this specific thread topic, that being evidence of "decades of Stallman's abuse of his positions at FSF and MIT".
        7y ago

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