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It would be helpful if you could cite specifically where it says the NSA can do this. I don't see it anywhere on the wikipedia page.

bumby 7y ago
Sec. 201. Authority to intercept wire, oral, and electronic communications relating to terrorism. [0] Sec. 202. Authority to intercept wire, oral, and electronic communications relating to computer fraud and abuse offenses. [0] Sec. 217. Interception of computer trespasser communications. [0] "by striking ‘‘wire and oral’’ and inserting ‘‘wire, oral, and electronic’’"[0] Allows federal agents to follow sophisticated terrorists trained to evade detection. For years, law enforcement has been able to use "roving wiretaps" to investigate ordinary crimes, including drug offenses and racketeering. A roving wiretap can be authorized by a federal judge to apply to a particular suspect, rather than a particular phone or communications device. Because international terrorists are sophisticated and trained to thwart surveillance by rapidly changing locations and communication devices such as cell phones, the Act authorized agents to seek court permission to use the same techniques in national security investigations to track terrorists.[1] This was just a cursory look into the Act. To be fair, it looks like there is a judge involved but who knows how rigorous the approval procedure is. It didn't read to me as a 'carte blanche' approval, but again, it may be in the eye of the beholder of the agency/judge. [0] https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-107hr3162enr/pdf/BILLS-107hr3162enr.pdf https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-107hr3162enr/pdf/B... [1] https://www.justice.gov/archive/ll/highlights.htm https://www.justice.gov/archive/ll/highlights.htm
geggam 7y ago
Here is another https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter
- tssva 7y ago
  "By law, NSLs can request only non-content information, for example, transactional records and phone numbers dialed, but never the content of telephone calls or e-mails." Also NSL's can be contested in court. No carte blanche to observe my communications.
  - geggam 7y ago
    Non content information is content. Meta data can be used as a serious invasion of privacy. This semantic dance violates the spirit of the law.

bumby 7y ago

Sec. 201. Authority to intercept wire, oral, and electronic communications relating to terrorism. [0] Sec. 202. Authority to intercept wire, oral, and electronic communications relating to computer fraud and abuse offenses. [0] Sec. 217. Interception of computer trespasser communications. [0] "by striking ‘‘wire and oral’’ and inserting ‘‘wire, oral, and electronic’’"[0] Allows federal agents to follow sophisticated terrorists trained to evade detection. For years, law enforcement has been able to use "roving wiretaps" to investigate ordinary crimes, including drug offenses and racketeering. A roving wiretap can be authorized by a federal judge to apply to a particular suspect, rather than a particular phone or communications device. Because international terrorists are sophisticated and trained to thwart surveillance by rapidly changing locations and communication devices such as cell phones, the Act authorized agents to seek court permission to use the same techniques in national security investigations to track terrorists.[1] This was just a cursory look into the Act. To be fair, it looks like there is a judge involved but who knows how rigorous the approval procedure is. It didn't read to me as a 'carte blanche' approval, but again, it may be in the eye of the beholder of the agency/judge. [0] https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-107hr3162enr/pdf/BILLS-107hr3162enr.pdf https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-107hr3162enr/pdf/B... [1] https://www.justice.gov/archive/ll/highlights.htm https://www.justice.gov/archive/ll/highlights.htm

geggam 7y ago

Here is another https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter

tssva 7y ago
"By law, NSLs can request only non-content information, for example, transactional records and phone numbers dialed, but never the content of telephone calls or e-mails." Also NSL's can be contested in court. No carte blanche to observe my communications.
- geggam 7y ago
  Non content information is content. Meta data can be used as a serious invasion of privacy. This semantic dance violates the spirit of the law.