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> choking a guy selling cigarettes to death. Please don't spread misinformation about a tragedy that's been used to create so much division in this country.

• Miner49er 7y ago
  Good point - there's no evidence that he was actually selling cigarettes. They choked a guy just standing on the sidewalk to death.
  • _edo 7y ago
    Seriously? 1. He resisted arrest. He clearly stated his intent to resist arrest. He was given the option to be peacefully arrested, which he declined. In the resulting forcible arrest he was choked, which is wrong, he shouldn't have been choked, but he absolutely wasn't "just standing on the sidewalk" - he was resisting arrest. 2. When you say he was choked to death people might get the impression that there was intent to kill him or that he died on the spot from asphyxiation instead of later from a heart attack. (edit: roughly a heart attack. The coroner listed several pre-existing conditions that contributed, including heart disease, but didn't say "heart attack") Since we've had literal riots over things like this I think it's appropriate to ask that we all try to stick to the facts.
    • Miner49er 7y ago
      1. There is no such thing as a peaceful arrest. Arresting someone is violence. He was just standing on the sidewalk when they started attempting to arrest him. 2. The choking caused his death. He was therefore choked to death. We have riots because people like you keep defending murderers and they keep getting away with killing people.
      • CompanionCuuube 7y ago
        > There is no such thing as a peaceful arrest. Arresting someone is violence. When you expand the use of a word so widely, it ceases to have meaning. You could say a traffic stop is violence. Court-ordered searches and seizures could be violence.
        • Miner49er 7y ago
          I'm not expanding the definition of the word. Tying up a person's hands, dragging them into a car, and locking them in a cage is most definitely under the definition of what most would call violence. The only reason most people don't resist is the threat of more violence if they do. Is kidnapping someone at gunpoint not violence?
          • _edo 7y ago
            You've had to change the definitions of several words in order to keep your narrative going. You refuse to admit the difference between a peaceful and by-force arrest because you're expanding the definition of the word violence and apparently would like to talk about it. You've expanded the definition of the word 'murder' to no longer require intent. You've expanded the meaning of "choked to death" beyond what any reasonable person would expect it to mean. If the police had gone out there and violently murdered somebody by choking them to death I would be very angry. That's simply not what happened and if you believe it is maybe you should examine exactly how you came to that conclusion.
        • scoobyyabbadoo 7y ago
          The same people who say "Arresting someone is violence" are the same extremists who call Trump supporters N-zis (I refuse to write out their slur for conservatives)
  • QuercusMax 7y ago
    They choked a guy to death who had just broken up the fight they were called there for.