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This doesn't feel like enough to discourage others from doing this, so what's even the point? Accessory to murder is 15 months now? Someone died from this! Also

by geddy 7y ago

This doesn't feel like enough to discourage others from doing this, so what's even the point? Accessory to murder is 15 months now? Someone died from this! Also, what about the cop who shot him?

wetpaws 7y ago
The right question is not why it was punished so lightly, but rather why it was even possible in a first place.
- RalfWausE 7y ago
  It was possible because some humans are ugly creatures who like to make the life of others miserable
c0nducktr 7y ago
Yeah, the police officer should really be facing some sort of punishment as well. They were responding to what they thought was a hostage situation, and shot the first person to walk out of the house. Even if it was a real hostage situation, why assume the first person out is the hostage taker, and not a hostage?
- jacobush 7y ago
  Also, must you always shoot the hostage taker at first sight? 1) if possible, shouldn't the court mete out the death sentence, instead of Judge Dredd, I mean, the police. 2) even from a completely tactical viewpoint, if you are dealing with more than one hostage taker, and you shot one of them, wouldn't you suspect the remaining hostage takers could get a little spooked?
  - c0nducktr 7y ago
    Yeah, pretty much every part of this was mishandled. With all the blame being placed on the person who placed the call, I don't have any faith that this same situation won't be repeated in the future either.
random42_ 7y ago
The person who actually made the call was sentenced to 20 years: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/03/man-behind-fatal-swatting-gets-20-years/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/03/man-behind-fatal-swattin...
umvi 7y ago
Really? I think it does. "Hmm, this guy in Call of Duty made me mad because he kept winning. Should I do something that puts me in prison for 15 years to get back at him? nah... Should I hire someone to do something that puts me in prison for over a year to get back at him? nah..."
- rmrfrmrf 7y ago
  It's 15 months, not years.
  - JimiofEden 7y ago
    Did you stop reading halfway through? "Should I hire someone do something that puts me in prison for over a year to get back at him"
  - umvi 7y ago
    The person that actually carried out the SWATing got over 15 years. The person that hired the SWATer got just over a year.
    - donclark 7y ago
      Wrong. The person that actually carried out the swatting, is unnamed and does not face charges (the SWAT team member who shot and killed an unarmed, unidentified person).
      - belltaco 7y ago
        Wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting
- moate 7y ago
  Do you think people thought this was okay prior? Obviously not, but what do you think they were assuming the worst case scenario was for them? Prior to this whole case playing out, I would have assumed "going to jail" would be an extremely likely outcome for the crime of swatting, especially if it had the (intended?) effect of killing the person involved.
leftyted 7y ago
It does to me. The person who made the call was sentenced to twenty years. The person who got 15 months is the one who paid the other person to make the call, not the person who made the call.
- rwmurrayVT 7y ago
  He didn't pay him. The guy did it for free because the kid didn't believe anything would happen. He said he loves to do it for free when people don't believe anything will happen. The guy got 20 years. When he was in the temporary holding jail he gained access to the internet and was still tweeting about swatting people. This was BEFORE his sentencing. Absolutely moronic and showed zero remorse.
  - scoobyyabbadoo 7y ago
    Wow that's brutally self-destructive. Has society always been like this? The more I look around the world today the more self-destructive behavior I see. I don't know if I only recently learned the cues to look for or if it is only a recent phenomenon
- geddy 7y ago
  That's my mistake - I must have misread. I think twenty years is reasonable in this case.

by geddy 7y ago

This doesn't feel like enough to discourage others from doing this, so what's even the point? Accessory to murder is 15 months now? Someone died from this! Also, what about the cop who shot him?

wetpaws 7y ago

The right question is not why it was punished so lightly, but rather why it was even possible in a first place.

RalfWausE 7y ago
It was possible because some humans are ugly creatures who like to make the life of others miserable

c0nducktr 7y ago

Yeah, the police officer should really be facing some sort of punishment as well. They were responding to what they thought was a hostage situation, and shot the first person to walk out of the house. Even if it was a real hostage situation, why assume the first person out is the hostage taker, and not a hostage?

jacobush 7y ago
Also, must you always shoot the hostage taker at first sight? 1) if possible, shouldn't the court mete out the death sentence, instead of Judge Dredd, I mean, the police. 2) even from a completely tactical viewpoint, if you are dealing with more than one hostage taker, and you shot one of them, wouldn't you suspect the remaining hostage takers could get a little spooked?
- c0nducktr 7y ago
  Yeah, pretty much every part of this was mishandled. With all the blame being placed on the person who placed the call, I don't have any faith that this same situation won't be repeated in the future either.

random42_ 7y ago

The person who actually made the call was sentenced to 20 years: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/03/man-behind-fatal-swatting-gets-20-years/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/03/man-behind-fatal-swattin...

umvi 7y ago

Really? I think it does. "Hmm, this guy in Call of Duty made me mad because he kept winning. Should I do something that puts me in prison for 15 years to get back at him? nah... Should I hire someone to do something that puts me in prison for over a year to get back at him? nah..."

rmrfrmrf 7y ago
It's 15 months, not years.
- JimiofEden 7y ago
  Did you stop reading halfway through? "Should I hire someone do something that puts me in prison for over a year to get back at him"
- umvi 7y ago
  The person that actually carried out the SWATing got over 15 years. The person that hired the SWATer got just over a year.
  - donclark 7y ago
    Wrong. The person that actually carried out the swatting, is unnamed and does not face charges (the SWAT team member who shot and killed an unarmed, unidentified person).
    - belltaco 7y ago
      Wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting
moate 7y ago
Do you think people thought this was okay prior? Obviously not, but what do you think they were assuming the worst case scenario was for them? Prior to this whole case playing out, I would have assumed "going to jail" would be an extremely likely outcome for the crime of swatting, especially if it had the (intended?) effect of killing the person involved.

leftyted 7y ago

It does to me. The person who made the call was sentenced to twenty years. The person who got 15 months is the one who paid the other person to make the call, not the person who made the call.

rwmurrayVT 7y ago
He didn't pay him. The guy did it for free because the kid didn't believe anything would happen. He said he loves to do it for free when people don't believe anything will happen. The guy got 20 years. When he was in the temporary holding jail he gained access to the internet and was still tweeting about swatting people. This was BEFORE his sentencing. Absolutely moronic and showed zero remorse.
- scoobyyabbadoo 7y ago
  Wow that's brutally self-destructive. Has society always been like this? The more I look around the world today the more self-destructive behavior I see. I don't know if I only recently learned the cues to look for or if it is only a recent phenomenon
geddy 7y ago
That's my mistake - I must have misread. I think twenty years is reasonable in this case.