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RMS is an "awful person"? I would say that, he's a hero to a lot of people, including me. He might be "social unskilled", but an AWFUL person? I would say that
by steveeq1 7y ago
RMS is an "awful person"? I would say that, he's a hero to a lot of people, including me. He might be "social unskilled", but an AWFUL person? I would say that is untrue in any common sense way.
- bandrami 7y agoYes, actively awful. Hostile-working-environment awful. Women cultivating plants in their offices because they know he hates plants and won't creep on them awful.
- steveeq1 7y ago> Women cultivating plants in their offices because they know he hates plants and won't creep on them awful. This 100% doesn't make any SENSE, and I read it five times. Can you please clarify?
- DanBC 7y agoWhen you have a hostile creep in the workplace the women in that workplace will have techniques they use to avoid the creep. This is because men do not believe those women when they say "this guy is a creep" and so no action gets taken against the creep. Or men do believe those women, but they decide not to do anything anyway. Eventually the body of evidence is so huge people can't avoid taking action any longer. We see this with Crosby, we see it with Epstein, we see it with Weinstein. Those people were monsters yet it took years for anything to happen. RMS is clearly nothing at all like those men, but the denial of his abusive behaviours is the same.
- steveeq1 7y agoOr maybe the women are exaggerating. I don't see any "overwhelming" evidence from stallman. I see a man that isn't very sociable and the women are either taking it the wrong way or are making too big a deal about it.
- bandrami 7y agoYes, clearly it's multiple women over decades who have somehow managed to independently exaggerate nearly identical stories. Jesus Christ it's like a parody of tech's cluelessness here.
- steveeq1 7y agoConfirmation bias. If the "multiple women" spans decades, you're probably actively looking for the hits and not looking at the misses. He's socially awkward so probably a lot of the "hits" are probably misinterpreting him.
- flippinburgers 7y agoThere are other comments talking about how he has a phobia to plants so women grow them in their offices or wear clothing with plant imagery. This may or may not be true. I prefer to think that Stallman finds this utterly hilarious and encourages the behavior.
- steveeq1 7y agoThis sounds exaggerated to me. He's socially awkward so it's more likely women are taking his actions the wrong way. Richard Stallman holds ethics in high regard.
- DagAgren 7y agoHow about you just trust the word of women who have actually had to deal with him in person rather than try to imagine what you think he SHOULD be like? Women have been complaining. For a long time. He is a big problem. He has been a big problem for a long time.