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http://simon-mcav.blogspot.com/2016/05/im-sorry-you-feel-that-way-is-not.html http://simon-mcav.blogspot.com/2016/05/im-sorry-you-feel-tha... > When a person t

http://simon-mcav.blogspot.com/2016/05/im-sorry-you-feel-that-way-is-not.html http://simon-mcav.blogspot.com/2016/05/im-sorry-you-feel-tha... > When a person tells someone else "I'm sorry that you feel that way", they are not acknowledging the potential role they might have played in making them feel this way. Instead, it is more like they are absolving themselves of responsibility, and are showing apparent sympathy that the person who is complaining might be upset for some abstract, and potentially irrational reason. It not only fails to acknowledge the potential role played by the speaker (or who they might represent), but this phrase is actually used to position the speaker as an innocent actor who has had little or no influence over the current situation.

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dangerface 7y ago
> He could even have made his point of thinking it's a misunderstanding and appologize, but didn't. > feel a real hurt because of what they believe I said. I'm sorry for that hurt. I wish I could have prevented the misunderstanding. The statement that RMS did not attempt to make an apology even one that is a false apology is 100% made up, he did in fact make a false apology. My point is that like many people on here the person making the argument believes RMS did wrong and they are now inventing reasons to justify their belief, its not an honest argument. You are ignoring or not reading the argument I was responding to which establishes the honesty of an apology as irrelevant. This is another example of a dishonest argument because it is moving the goal posts of the argument again to justify your prior beliefs.
- anotheryou 7y ago
  I didn't see/find his post. Thanks for that.
- Chris2048 7y ago
  > he did in fact make a false apology No he didn't. Making a false apology requires some form of deception or misdirection whereby it isn't obvious that you are denying any responsibility. For example "I'm sorry you feel that way - but I'm not at fault!" Is not a false apology, since it is very clear that you are denying responsibility, despite that fact that it contains the triggering substring "I'm sorry you feel that way".
Chris2048 7y ago
> who has had little or no influence over the current situation. Stallman had no control over being misquoted. He also didn't say "I'm sorry that you feel that way" - He specifically mentions he was misquoted, leaving no doubt that he is not apologizing for the cause of the offense - People were offended by the misquotes, not the original statements.

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dangerface 7y ago

> He could even have made his point of thinking it's a misunderstanding and appologize, but didn't. > feel a real hurt because of what they believe I said. I'm sorry for that hurt. I wish I could have prevented the misunderstanding. The statement that RMS did not attempt to make an apology even one that is a false apology is 100% made up, he did in fact make a false apology. My point is that like many people on here the person making the argument believes RMS did wrong and they are now inventing reasons to justify their belief, its not an honest argument. You are ignoring or not reading the argument I was responding to which establishes the honesty of an apology as irrelevant. This is another example of a dishonest argument because it is moving the goal posts of the argument again to justify your prior beliefs.

anotheryou 7y ago
I didn't see/find his post. Thanks for that.
Chris2048 7y ago
> he did in fact make a false apology No he didn't. Making a false apology requires some form of deception or misdirection whereby it isn't obvious that you are denying any responsibility. For example "I'm sorry you feel that way - but I'm not at fault!" Is not a false apology, since it is very clear that you are denying responsibility, despite that fact that it contains the triggering substring "I'm sorry you feel that way".

Chris2048 7y ago

> who has had little or no influence over the current situation. Stallman had no control over being misquoted. He also didn't say "I'm sorry that you feel that way" - He specifically mentions he was misquoted, leaving no doubt that he is not apologizing for the cause of the offense - People were offended by the misquotes, not the original statements.