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> more men are victims of violent crime Seriously? Have you looked at the percentage of women who have experienced sexual harassment or assault in their life?

> more men are victims of violent crime Seriously? Have you looked at the percentage of women who have experienced sexual harassment or assault in their life? Do you understand what it is like to be a woman, to have to look over your shoulder so much of the time, the fear and anxiety that follows you or prevents you from walking alone at night or in a strange place? How many women have you talked to? The violent crime you speak of is male on male. The oppressive omnipresent threat of violence against women is by men. The population of male victims of violent crimes has a high degree of overlap with the population of perpetrators of violent crime (i.e. Your statement is like saying men are greater victims of war, when it is fact men exclusively who have perpetrated those very wars).

james_s_tayler 7y ago
>Do you understand what it is like to be a woman, to have to look over your shoulder so much of the time, the fear and anxiety that follows you or prevents you from walking alone at night or in a strange place? I like how women think this uniquely applies to them. As if all men are just brimming with confidence, completely unafraid and always ready to do battle. As if they can walk past a hooded figure on a dark street and physiologically remaining completely unaffected.
- carti 7y ago
  If you can't recognize the difference, you aren't talking with or listening to enough women in your circle about this sort of thing. I would highly encourage you to do so. Regardless, the parent is not saying that men don't also experience the fear of violence.
  - hope-striker 7y ago
    Honestly, I have no friends, so I'd really appreciate it if you could explain the difference as best as the Internet allows.
    - eevilspock 7y ago
      It's best you ask some women you know in person (female colleagues at work, female friends of your friends, your sister(s), your mom), and listen to them in earnest. You may make some female friends this way. Men who listen to women, who truly listen, are rare.
  - james_s_tayler 7y ago
    I'm sorry but what's the difference? The parent said "do you know?" Implying that as a male I had zero knowledge of what it's like to feel that way. Which implies that I have never felt that way. Which implies that whenever I'm in a situation that makes a woman feel that way, it doesn't make me feel that way. I'm sorry but it does. So,yes I do know. Is it worse for women? My assumption is at least 2x ~ 3x. The difference being when I walk past a shadowy figure in the street I mutter to myself "please don't kill me" while they think "OMG, please please please don't kill me". The vectors point in exactly the same direction. The magnitude is what's different. The original comment implied the vectors didn't even point in the same direction or had zero magnitude for men. That's wrong.
theflyinghorse 7y ago
I'm sorry, all that you said applies to men as well. Besides, your statement about wars is outright insulting! You've degraded the male victims of war (of whom there are a lot more) entirely by shifting blame for violence on them. In most wars you'd get thrown in jail if you refuse to go and fight!
- carti 7y ago
  There is a difference. Please ask some women you know about this, as the parent suggested.
  - theflyinghorse 7y ago
    Sounds like you've already done the legwork. Why won't you share how experiencing violence is drastically different between men and women.
spodek 7y ago
> Do you understand what it is like to be a woman, to have to look over your shoulder so much of the time, the fear and anxiety that follows you or prevents you from walking alone at night or in a strange place? Do you understand what it's like to be a man? I was mugged five times as a boy and young man, including at knife point. Police have harassed me. Are you suggesting it's more pleasant to be threatened with your life as a man than a woman? If not, then I'll go with the numbers and not imply, as you do, that no man can understand about being a victim of violent crime.
Smithalicious 7y ago
> The violent crime you speak of is male on male. If you get to use that as an argument, do I get to do the black on black crime thing?

james_s_tayler 7y ago

>Do you understand what it is like to be a woman, to have to look over your shoulder so much of the time, the fear and anxiety that follows you or prevents you from walking alone at night or in a strange place? I like how women think this uniquely applies to them. As if all men are just brimming with confidence, completely unafraid and always ready to do battle. As if they can walk past a hooded figure on a dark street and physiologically remaining completely unaffected.

carti 7y ago
If you can't recognize the difference, you aren't talking with or listening to enough women in your circle about this sort of thing. I would highly encourage you to do so. Regardless, the parent is not saying that men don't also experience the fear of violence.
- hope-striker 7y ago
  Honestly, I have no friends, so I'd really appreciate it if you could explain the difference as best as the Internet allows.
  - eevilspock 7y ago
    It's best you ask some women you know in person (female colleagues at work, female friends of your friends, your sister(s), your mom), and listen to them in earnest. You may make some female friends this way. Men who listen to women, who truly listen, are rare.
- james_s_tayler 7y ago
  I'm sorry but what's the difference? The parent said "do you know?" Implying that as a male I had zero knowledge of what it's like to feel that way. Which implies that I have never felt that way. Which implies that whenever I'm in a situation that makes a woman feel that way, it doesn't make me feel that way. I'm sorry but it does. So,yes I do know. Is it worse for women? My assumption is at least 2x ~ 3x. The difference being when I walk past a shadowy figure in the street I mutter to myself "please don't kill me" while they think "OMG, please please please don't kill me". The vectors point in exactly the same direction. The magnitude is what's different. The original comment implied the vectors didn't even point in the same direction or had zero magnitude for men. That's wrong.

theflyinghorse 7y ago

I'm sorry, all that you said applies to men as well. Besides, your statement about wars is outright insulting! You've degraded the male victims of war (of whom there are a lot more) entirely by shifting blame for violence on them. In most wars you'd get thrown in jail if you refuse to go and fight!

carti 7y ago
There is a difference. Please ask some women you know about this, as the parent suggested.
- theflyinghorse 7y ago
  Sounds like you've already done the legwork. Why won't you share how experiencing violence is drastically different between men and women.

spodek 7y ago

> Do you understand what it is like to be a woman, to have to look over your shoulder so much of the time, the fear and anxiety that follows you or prevents you from walking alone at night or in a strange place? Do you understand what it's like to be a man? I was mugged five times as a boy and young man, including at knife point. Police have harassed me. Are you suggesting it's more pleasant to be threatened with your life as a man than a woman? If not, then I'll go with the numbers and not imply, as you do, that no man can understand about being a victim of violent crime.

Smithalicious 7y ago

> The violent crime you speak of is male on male. If you get to use that as an argument, do I get to do the black on black crime thing?