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> It is, because one is illegal, the other is not Rape is always illegal. Sex is not. > Just like drinking with 21 and 20.99 years is not the same, because

> It is, because one is illegal, the other is not Rape is always illegal. Sex is not. > Just like drinking with 21 and 20.99 years is not the same, because they're American. We start at 18, no problems here, no mass shootings, no one selling out to older people to buy alcohol for them. > So by applying your logic to that, 13 and 364 days would be OK too? So by your logic 14 and 1 days is ok? Or, as Stallman said, rape cannot be defined by minor things such as the place where it happened or the age when it happened? > How do you feel about that, not entirely comfortable right? Completely. It's your country that allows older people have sex with baby girls, not mine. > Because you're used mentally to 18 years being the line, Don't assume we are all like you. I'm mentally used to being normal at 15-16... Because that's the age when people around me started, when I was their age. > But all the laws are like that Not even those about rape are all black and white. Even statutory rape is usually treated differently if the minor is just around the age of consent or not. > If 18 is the legal age, you just don't mess with minors, how complicated is that really? That's exactly what Stallman did. He never messed with minors. What upset you so much?

ivanhoe 7y ago
> Rape is always illegal. - If person is 18 and sex is consensual it's not a rape. - If person is 17y 354 days old it doesn't matter what the minor person acted like, because law treats it as a non-consensual sex, so it's statutory rape. > So by your logic 14 and 1 days is ok? If both persons involved are living in Serbia it is OK. Unusual thing nowadays and to many here (me included) not seen as something morally positive, but some minorities have a different customs than mainstream Serbian culture, so it's fully legal. Most of Europe has the age of consent at 16, which in my own eyes makes more appropriate age than 14, but law is what matters. > That's exactly what Stallman did. He never messed with minors. No one said he did. But he, completely uncalled for, defended someone who did - who broke the law in a very obvious way - and he did it by trying to put the blame on a victim, although her being a minor makes her behavior completely irrelevant from the legal point of view. And that sucks.
- lostjohnny 7y ago
  > If person is 17y 354 days old it doesn't matter what the minor person acted like, because law treats it as a non-consensual sex, so it's statutory rape That's why USA are the motherland of mass shootings then... I'm 18 today, my girlfriend is one day younger than me, it's rape. What a lovely country. > If both persons involved are living in Serbia it is OK But is it OK for you? Because you implied that I was ok with it... I'm curious now. > No one said he did. But he, completely uncalled fo Like he always did? Did someone called him to invent the GPL? > defended someone who did But he did not. That's utterly false. > and he did it by trying to put the blame on a victim He was arguing that it wasn't not pedophilia but statutory rape. I don't know why you people love so much to put words in the mouth of RMS, he's perfectly capable of shooting himself in the foot. It won't be the last time. It still does not make him someone who argues in favour of rape.

ivanhoe 7y ago

> Rape is always illegal. - If person is 18 and sex is consensual it's not a rape. - If person is 17y 354 days old it doesn't matter what the minor person acted like, because law treats it as a non-consensual sex, so it's statutory rape. > So by your logic 14 and 1 days is ok? If both persons involved are living in Serbia it is OK. Unusual thing nowadays and to many here (me included) not seen as something morally positive, but some minorities have a different customs than mainstream Serbian culture, so it's fully legal. Most of Europe has the age of consent at 16, which in my own eyes makes more appropriate age than 14, but law is what matters. > That's exactly what Stallman did. He never messed with minors. No one said he did. But he, completely uncalled for, defended someone who did - who broke the law in a very obvious way - and he did it by trying to put the blame on a victim, although her being a minor makes her behavior completely irrelevant from the legal point of view. And that sucks.

lostjohnny 7y ago
> If person is 17y 354 days old it doesn't matter what the minor person acted like, because law treats it as a non-consensual sex, so it's statutory rape That's why USA are the motherland of mass shootings then... I'm 18 today, my girlfriend is one day younger than me, it's rape. What a lovely country. > If both persons involved are living in Serbia it is OK But is it OK for you? Because you implied that I was ok with it... I'm curious now. > No one said he did. But he, completely uncalled fo Like he always did? Did someone called him to invent the GPL? > defended someone who did But he did not. That's utterly false. > and he did it by trying to put the blame on a victim He was arguing that it wasn't not pedophilia but statutory rape. I don't know why you people love so much to put words in the mouth of RMS, he's perfectly capable of shooting himself in the foot. It won't be the last time. It still does not make him someone who argues in favour of rape.