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Might as well not even vote. Your one votes can't turn the tide.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
Depending on where you live that can be very true.
rdtwo 7y ago
The next election is going to be decided by about 5% of the country that’s contested. Everyone else might as well not even bother filling in the box for president
- sp332 7y ago
  There are more votes than just the presidential election.
  - rdtwo 7y ago
    Yeah that’s why I just said presidential a lot of other important elections that count on the downballot
- vijayr02 7y ago
  Asimov's story takes this to its (extreme) logical conclusion: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchise_(short_story) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchise_(short_story)
maxerickson 7y ago
That's not what they said though, they said they are gonna vote for whoever makes their life directly better in the relative short term.
avita1 7y ago
If you're in the position to be buying a house, voting is basically free. Ignoring a credit score when applying for a mortgage can be considerably more expensive.
benj111 7y ago
That's why we get people like Trump.
- Fjolsvith 7y ago
  He sure made some people's lives better.
  - benj111 7y ago
    Yes, but only a small demographic that actually votes. If only 1% of the population actually votes, elected representatives will tend to represent that 1%. If you cede the centre ground you get extremists. Say what you like about Trump, he managed to get his target demographic fired up and out to vote. $boring_reasonable_politician doesn't have the same ability by their nature to get people fired up, but we still need to vote for them.
    - smolder 7y ago
      Their loyalty lies mostly with campaign financers. If campaign financers want a different outcome than voters, they get it.
      - benj111 7y ago
        But then you're back to not voting and getting a Trump again. Not voting is not a solution.
        smolder 7y ago
        We're agreed on that.
    - Fjolsvith 7y ago
      When you say "$boring_reasonable_politician" I think Joe Biden. <yawn> If what Trump did last election was getting them fired up, then this election they are going nuclear. Check out the massive waves of people at his rallies versus the trickles at the Dem's gatherings.

Depending on where you live that can be very true.

The next election is going to be decided by about 5% of the country that’s contested. Everyone else might as well not even bother filling in the box for president

sp332 7y ago
There are more votes than just the presidential election.
- rdtwo 7y ago
  Yeah that’s why I just said presidential a lot of other important elections that count on the downballot
vijayr02 7y ago
Asimov's story takes this to its (extreme) logical conclusion: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchise_(short_story) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchise_(short_story)

maxerickson 7y ago

That's not what they said though, they said they are gonna vote for whoever makes their life directly better in the relative short term.

avita1 7y ago

If you're in the position to be buying a house, voting is basically free. Ignoring a credit score when applying for a mortgage can be considerably more expensive.

benj111 7y ago

That's why we get people like Trump.

Fjolsvith 7y ago
He sure made some people's lives better.
- benj111 7y ago
  Yes, but only a small demographic that actually votes. If only 1% of the population actually votes, elected representatives will tend to represent that 1%. If you cede the centre ground you get extremists. Say what you like about Trump, he managed to get his target demographic fired up and out to vote. $boring_reasonable_politician doesn't have the same ability by their nature to get people fired up, but we still need to vote for them.
  - smolder 7y ago
    Their loyalty lies mostly with campaign financers. If campaign financers want a different outcome than voters, they get it.
    - benj111 7y ago
      But then you're back to not voting and getting a Trump again. Not voting is not a solution.
      - smolder 7y ago
        We're agreed on that.
  - Fjolsvith 7y ago
    When you say "$boring_reasonable_politician" I think Joe Biden. <yawn> If what Trump did last election was getting them fired up, then this election they are going nuclear. Check out the massive waves of people at his rallies versus the trickles at the Dem's gatherings.