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> "Friend" isn't just some flag that gets set by cosmic rays and then stays that way forever. Agreed. It's more of a collection of experiences and knowledge of

by alt_f4 7y ago

> "Friend" isn't just some flag that gets set by cosmic rays and then stays that way forever. Agreed. It's more of a collection of experiences and knowledge of character. If I've known you for 20 years and known you to be a good person, if I hear something like this I'm more likely to believe this is some sort of a mistake, as it is completely out of character. One way to rationalize it would be to believe that you were misinformed, rather than me being a poor judge of character for all of these years. Again, not saying it's what happened - i dont know. But it's just human nature to react like that. It's not really human nature to consider the social media and print media applications before writing an opinion.

PavlovsCat 7y ago
You're essentially just describing what you're not saying, and "some sort of mistake" is much too generic for me. While I personally wouldn't feel much better about a friend having sex with someone a third their age even if that person is an adult, it's impossible to have sex with a minor by accident, unless they have fake ID. Not even asking for it means not caring, no ifs and buts. "Human nature" is also too generic, the question was, how would you react. I answered that question, and have the former friends I showed the door to prove it. It's clearly within "human nature" to react like that, too.
- alt_f4 7y ago
  > While I personally wouldn't feel much better about a friend having sex with someone a third their age even if that person is an adult Why, if it is 2 consenting adults? As I said in another comment, some people are into BDSM, tentacle stuff, toys, etc. If they're both into it and happy, it's none of my business. This agist view towards sex that you are prescribing is certainly no better than someone who would stop being friends with someone because they found out that their friend is gay.
  - PavlovsCat 7y ago
    Friendship also requires the consent of two. I don't stop thinking at "consent" and "into it", and I don't have to justify that to you, either. I could elaborate, but you're not really asking, or respecting my opinion at all -- me just "being into" certain people as friends apparently isn't enough for you. > This agist view towards sex that you are prescribing You're actually trying to prescribe to something to me, and about my reasoning and "view" you know nothing, because you prefer your own straw man. > is certainly no better than someone who would stop being friends with someone because they found out that their friend is gay. Aaaand here comes the payoff, where being against taking advantage of someone is "the" bad thing, and dirty old men don't exist, just an "agist view". A lot of variations can be seen in that other thread, too: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20990583 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20990583
    - alt_f4 7y ago
      You fail to realize that there are plenty of relationships between younger and older people where no one is taking advantage of anyone. In fact, you assume that, just because of the age difference, someone is being exploited. Your assumption is completely wrong.

by alt_f4 7y ago

PavlovsCat 7y ago

You're essentially just describing what you're not saying, and "some sort of mistake" is much too generic for me. While I personally wouldn't feel much better about a friend having sex with someone a third their age even if that person is an adult, it's impossible to have sex with a minor by accident, unless they have fake ID. Not even asking for it means not caring, no ifs and buts. "Human nature" is also too generic, the question was, how would you react. I answered that question, and have the former friends I showed the door to prove it. It's clearly within "human nature" to react like that, too.

alt_f4 7y ago
> While I personally wouldn't feel much better about a friend having sex with someone a third their age even if that person is an adult Why, if it is 2 consenting adults? As I said in another comment, some people are into BDSM, tentacle stuff, toys, etc. If they're both into it and happy, it's none of my business. This agist view towards sex that you are prescribing is certainly no better than someone who would stop being friends with someone because they found out that their friend is gay.
- PavlovsCat 7y ago
  Friendship also requires the consent of two. I don't stop thinking at "consent" and "into it", and I don't have to justify that to you, either. I could elaborate, but you're not really asking, or respecting my opinion at all -- me just "being into" certain people as friends apparently isn't enough for you. > This agist view towards sex that you are prescribing You're actually trying to prescribe to something to me, and about my reasoning and "view" you know nothing, because you prefer your own straw man. > is certainly no better than someone who would stop being friends with someone because they found out that their friend is gay. Aaaand here comes the payoff, where being against taking advantage of someone is "the" bad thing, and dirty old men don't exist, just an "agist view". A lot of variations can be seen in that other thread, too: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20990583 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20990583
  - alt_f4 7y ago
    You fail to realize that there are plenty of relationships between younger and older people where no one is taking advantage of anyone. In fact, you assume that, just because of the age difference, someone is being exploited. Your assumption is completely wrong.