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Fair, but my argument would be what wouldn't be capitalism by this definition. Literally every government post feudalism was capitalist if you are going to say
by anm89 7y ago
Fair, but my argument would be what wouldn't be capitalism by this definition. Literally every government post feudalism was capitalist if you are going to say Stalin, and the US and everything idealogically in between were capitalist.
At that point I'd argue, whatever it is that this person dislikes, capitalism is just an empty word to represent it. "Reality", or "the world" would appear more accurate to me.
- cairo_x 7y agoI literally defined capitalism for you. I meant exactly what I said. As for state-capitalism, it is not some archaic historical revisionist concept, it has roots all the way back to the beginnings of Bolshevism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism
- pasabagi 7y agoI think the point was, the socialist states of the soviet bloc were explicitly 'capitalist', and that was something they said about themselves. The point is, they thought about capitalism as something they were transitioning out of, and trying to actively replace. Capitalism is a pretty clear idea - it's a society characterized by wage labour. Non-capitalist societies don't have the concept of selling your labour-time for a wage. That's why feudal societies aren't capitalist (they didn't have clocks, for one thing). That's why the soviet block was capitalist.