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What’s truly remarkable is that you spent several paragraphs admitting that men tend to make offensive, sexist remarks and gestures, and then you use this to ju

What’s truly remarkable is that you spent several paragraphs admitting that men tend to make offensive, sexist remarks and gestures, and then you use this to justify Stallman’s behavior. This is exactly why the tech industry NEEDS to do better.

robocat 7y ago
Calling Richard a creep is ad-hominum: judgement by social media. I wasn't trying to say his behaviour is acceptable. It seems he needs to work on his social interactions (most of us need to work on that, and we should all fight for better). The only reason for this brouhaha is that the media has attacked him. He wrote that she was coerced. The media has said he said she was willing. Now plenty of words are being used to picture him as immoral. What seems weird is that Richard comes across to me as idealistically moral, almost religiously moral: with the misfortune to have a popular wave crashing into his philosophical castle.
- Y_Y 7y ago
  Homo is third declension masculine, hominum is plural genitive ("of men"). Here you need accusative, so ad hominem. Case Singular Plural Nominative homō hominēs Genitive hominis hominum Dative hominī hominibus Accusative hominem hominēs Ablative homine hominibus Vocative homō hominēs
  - teabee89 7y ago
    From a French education, I have learned a different order of cases for Latin declension tables (NVAGDA: Nominative, Vocative, Accusative, Genitive, Dative, Ablative). I was curious to know where it comes from, and apparently the order you used is more common in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_declension#Order_of_the_cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_declension#Order_of_the_...
    - Y_Y 7y ago
      I learnt your way in school too, but the table is copied from wiktionary.
  - ayyyyylmao2000 7y ago
    Nice derailing. How much does the CIA pay you?
qball 7y ago
>This is exactly why the tech industry NEEDS to do better. By exchanging clearly visible markers against which action can be easily taken for unaccountable bullying and mob "justice" (which tends to unfairly advantage women in the same way you level your accusations)? All you want is to give a different group the right to bully and oppress others rather than actually solving the problem. This isn't making things "better"; it's typically considered rather harmful, unless you're a sexist, racist, or both.
- journalctl 7y ago
  Preventing people like Stallman from being leaders is not oppression, it’s accountability.
- CathedralBorrow 7y ago
  Who exactly is the victim of bullying here?

robocat 7y ago

Calling Richard a creep is ad-hominum: judgement by social media. I wasn't trying to say his behaviour is acceptable. It seems he needs to work on his social interactions (most of us need to work on that, and we should all fight for better). The only reason for this brouhaha is that the media has attacked him. He wrote that she was coerced. The media has said he said she was willing. Now plenty of words are being used to picture him as immoral. What seems weird is that Richard comes across to me as idealistically moral, almost religiously moral: with the misfortune to have a popular wave crashing into his philosophical castle.

Y_Y 7y ago
Homo is third declension masculine, hominum is plural genitive ("of men"). Here you need accusative, so ad hominem. Case Singular Plural Nominative homō hominēs Genitive hominis hominum Dative hominī hominibus Accusative hominem hominēs Ablative homine hominibus Vocative homō hominēs
- teabee89 7y ago
  From a French education, I have learned a different order of cases for Latin declension tables (NVAGDA: Nominative, Vocative, Accusative, Genitive, Dative, Ablative). I was curious to know where it comes from, and apparently the order you used is more common in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_declension#Order_of_the_cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_declension#Order_of_the_...
  - Y_Y 7y ago
    I learnt your way in school too, but the table is copied from wiktionary.
- ayyyyylmao2000 7y ago
  Nice derailing. How much does the CIA pay you?

qball 7y ago

>This is exactly why the tech industry NEEDS to do better. By exchanging clearly visible markers against which action can be easily taken for unaccountable bullying and mob "justice" (which tends to unfairly advantage women in the same way you level your accusations)? All you want is to give a different group the right to bully and oppress others rather than actually solving the problem. This isn't making things "better"; it's typically considered rather harmful, unless you're a sexist, racist, or both.

journalctl 7y ago
Preventing people like Stallman from being leaders is not oppression, it’s accountability.
CathedralBorrow 7y ago
Who exactly is the victim of bullying here?