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I agree the internet is getting locked down, it'll end up like daytime tv if we're not careful. But I'm two clicks away from access to Nazi and extremist conten

I agree the internet is getting locked down, it'll end up like daytime tv if we're not careful. But I'm two clicks away from access to Nazi and extremist content right now. The internet still is the wild wild west version of a library, in terms of access to content, but now there's laws and archiving of everything typed and read applied on top of that too. This Stallman case is edge-case fallout from a massive political movement. He could have probably discussed the age of consent in public pre-2013 and maybe get a few disgusted reactions but generally be fine. The political control of internet arguments is more obvious than ever, and the quest for advertising money.. but I'm fairly sure I can start and run a website/subreddit/blog for whatever niche idea and be left alone.

anilakar 7y ago
> He could have probably discussed the age of consent in public pre-2013 and maybe get a few disgusted reactions but generally be fine. He did. People don't remember, but his home page used to have articles regarding age of consent, which he later took down.
- friendlybus 7y ago
  I hope my post didn't look like a defense of stallman, because it isn't meant to be. Yeah people don't remember right? The stories about him seem troubling.
smsm42 7y ago
> But I'm two clicks away from access to Nazi and extremist content right now So? Don't make these clicks and you'd never see them. > The political control of internet arguments is more obvious than ever, and the quest for advertising money Advertising money has nothing to do with it - FSF doesn't need advertising money. They're just live in deathly fear of the woke Red Guards, as many before them (e.g. Mozilla) - and that fear may be very well justified. > but I'm fairly sure I can start and run a website/subreddit/blog for whatever niche idea and be left alone. Sure you can. If you can do without: hosting, DDoS protection, DNS, advertising, search engines, social media, payment processing, etc. All those have recently been engaged in deplatforming people for political considerations. But yes, you are free to lay your own cable infrastructure, set up your own data centers, build out your own internet, and there have you own website about whatever you want, completely free.
- friendlybus 7y ago
  Just saying that the crazy content is still available so assessing the idea that speech is being limited and we are reaching a monoculture is testable against that yardstick. I'm not here to defend the quality or content of those extreme websites. Advertising money has something to do with YouTube deplatforming people which is part of evaluating the idea that we are becoming a monoculture. I think only the daily stormer is an example if you go anywhere you will be pulled down, including for. Controlling that stuff is the government's job, I would expect radical political sects to lose the fight to host a website. But if your idea is non political you're basically in the clear.

anilakar 7y ago

> He could have probably discussed the age of consent in public pre-2013 and maybe get a few disgusted reactions but generally be fine. He did. People don't remember, but his home page used to have articles regarding age of consent, which he later took down.

friendlybus 7y ago
I hope my post didn't look like a defense of stallman, because it isn't meant to be. Yeah people don't remember right? The stories about him seem troubling.

smsm42 7y ago

> But I'm two clicks away from access to Nazi and extremist content right now So? Don't make these clicks and you'd never see them. > The political control of internet arguments is more obvious than ever, and the quest for advertising money Advertising money has nothing to do with it - FSF doesn't need advertising money. They're just live in deathly fear of the woke Red Guards, as many before them (e.g. Mozilla) - and that fear may be very well justified. > but I'm fairly sure I can start and run a website/subreddit/blog for whatever niche idea and be left alone. Sure you can. If you can do without: hosting, DDoS protection, DNS, advertising, search engines, social media, payment processing, etc. All those have recently been engaged in deplatforming people for political considerations. But yes, you are free to lay your own cable infrastructure, set up your own data centers, build out your own internet, and there have you own website about whatever you want, completely free.

friendlybus 7y ago
Just saying that the crazy content is still available so assessing the idea that speech is being limited and we are reaching a monoculture is testable against that yardstick. I'm not here to defend the quality or content of those extreme websites. Advertising money has something to do with YouTube deplatforming people which is part of evaluating the idea that we are becoming a monoculture. I think only the daily stormer is an example if you go anywhere you will be pulled down, including for. Controlling that stuff is the government's job, I would expect radical political sects to lose the fight to host a website. But if your idea is non political you're basically in the clear.