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The pressure against him has been going for at least ten years, and his most recent comment was made last week. So yep, apparently they sleep on things for at l

The pressure against him has been going for at least ten years, and his most recent comment was made last week. So yep, apparently they sleep on things for at least ten years.

mtrower 7y ago
He may be talking about the blog post on Medium by Selam G.? The one where she launched a personal attack at him, publicly, because she was "too angry to work right now".
- roguecoder 7y ago
  I’ve been around long enough to remember these things happening in real time: I didn’t show up to free software today and start opining based on what I read on Reddit. Everyone involved in open source knew about Stallman. Whether or not we think his bad behavior outweighs his personal contributions depends largely on if our name is “Richard Stallman”.
  - mtrower 7y ago
    > I didn’t show up to free software today and start opining based on what I read on Reddit. Erm... I didn't suggest that you did? I suggested that the parent comment about sleeping on things may have been directed at the blog writer. > Everyone involved in open source knew about Stallman. Whether or not we think his bad behavior outweighs his personal contributions depends largely on if our name is “Richard Stallman”. This here, it reads as though you are asserting that pretty much only Richard Stallman himself thinks his personal contributions outweigh his behaviour, and pretty much everyone else in open source feels the opposite. Are you really making this bold of an assertion?
methehack 7y ago
So you're saying there's been pressure for him to resign for years? And that this incident is just one example of a long list of unacceptable behavior? Do you have any sources for that?
- roguecoder 7y ago
  Yes. The first time I remember was the 2009 speech where he advocated that men go off and deflower emacs virgins: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.datamation.com/amp/osrc/article.php/3830651/Richard-Stallman-Leadership-and-Sexism.htm https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.datamation.com/amp/osrc/art... However, incidents apparently go back to at least 1981: https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41e784f88 https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix...

The pressure against him has been going for at least ten years, and his most recent comment was made last week. So yep, apparently they sleep on things for at least ten years.

mtrower 7y ago

He may be talking about the blog post on Medium by Selam G.? The one where she launched a personal attack at him, publicly, because she was "too angry to work right now".

roguecoder 7y ago
I’ve been around long enough to remember these things happening in real time: I didn’t show up to free software today and start opining based on what I read on Reddit. Everyone involved in open source knew about Stallman. Whether or not we think his bad behavior outweighs his personal contributions depends largely on if our name is “Richard Stallman”.
- mtrower 7y ago
  > I didn’t show up to free software today and start opining based on what I read on Reddit. Erm... I didn't suggest that you did? I suggested that the parent comment about sleeping on things may have been directed at the blog writer. > Everyone involved in open source knew about Stallman. Whether or not we think his bad behavior outweighs his personal contributions depends largely on if our name is “Richard Stallman”. This here, it reads as though you are asserting that pretty much only Richard Stallman himself thinks his personal contributions outweigh his behaviour, and pretty much everyone else in open source feels the opposite. Are you really making this bold of an assertion?

methehack 7y ago

So you're saying there's been pressure for him to resign for years? And that this incident is just one example of a long list of unacceptable behavior? Do you have any sources for that?

roguecoder 7y ago
Yes. The first time I remember was the 2009 speech where he advocated that men go off and deflower emacs virgins: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.datamation.com/amp/osrc/article.php/3830651/Richard-Stallman-Leadership-and-Sexism.htm https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.datamation.com/amp/osrc/art... However, incidents apparently go back to at least 1981: https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41e784f88 https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix...