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This feels like straight propaganda... > when the other claims are just as illegitimate This is untrue, re: «On 12 July 2016, an arbitral tribunal constituted

This feels like straight propaganda... > when the other claims are just as illegitimate This is untrue, re: «On 12 July 2016, an arbitral tribunal constituted under Annex VII to the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea ruled that China has no legal basis to claim "historic rights" within its nine-dash line in a case brought by the Philippines» > All of these countries have overlapping This is massively disingenuous, because only China is putting military bases next to other countries and then chasing off their fishermen. Locate Mischief Reef on a map, and then tell me China isn’t annexing Phillipine territory with a straight face.

yorwba 7y ago
Read carefully. > China has no legal basis to claim "historic rights" within its nine-dash line in a case brought by the Philippines The tribunal did not find that the Philippines had such a legal basis either. Mischief Reef is not in the Philippines' territorial waters, which only extend 12 nautical miles. It is within their exclusive economic zone, which means that China would not be allowed to e.g. drill for oil. But the surface is international waters and no nation has the right to obstruct another's vessels there. > only China is putting military bases next to other countries Vietnam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namyit_Island https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namyit_Island Malaysia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swallow_Reef https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swallow_Reef Taiwan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Island https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Island
- peteretep 7y ago
  > It is within their exclusive economic zone Yes it is, and China has put a military base there and is chasing out Filipino citizens.
  - yorwba 7y ago
    They're obstructing maritime traffic in international waters, which is a different offense from annexing another country's territory.

yorwba 7y ago

Read carefully. > China has no legal basis to claim "historic rights" within its nine-dash line in a case brought by the Philippines The tribunal did not find that the Philippines had such a legal basis either. Mischief Reef is not in the Philippines' territorial waters, which only extend 12 nautical miles. It is within their exclusive economic zone, which means that China would not be allowed to e.g. drill for oil. But the surface is international waters and no nation has the right to obstruct another's vessels there. > only China is putting military bases next to other countries Vietnam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namyit_Island https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namyit_Island Malaysia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swallow_Reef https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swallow_Reef Taiwan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Island https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Island

peteretep 7y ago
> It is within their exclusive economic zone Yes it is, and China has put a military base there and is chasing out Filipino citizens.
- yorwba 7y ago
  They're obstructing maritime traffic in international waters, which is a different offense from annexing another country's territory.